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Half of Elon is apparently a treasure of humanity, and the other half is some giant unstable douche. How do we arrange an intervention such that the guy getting

Half of Elon is apparently a treasure of humanity, and the other half is some giant unstable douche. How do we arrange an intervention such that the guy getting high on Joe Rogan and harassing expats doesn't bring down the guy doing the good stuff?

Faaak 8y ago
How a guy smoking a joint can trouble you is beyond me.
- swarnie_ 8y ago
  Definitely not the securities fraud or slander on Twitter?
  - ben_w 8y ago
    Agreed that weed itself is irrelevant (though I literally don’t believe that $420 wasn’t a drugs reference even though it’s been explicitly denied), unlike violating the rules about manipulating share prices and the defamation on Twitter. Looks to me like chronic overwork. How do we convince him to take a holiday?
    - swarnie_ 8y ago
      Maybe the £420 comment was a typo for $240 and his resent public meltdown are intentional in order to tank the company and buy it out cheap. Ill get the tinfoil now...
- dagw 8y ago
  It's not the smoking a joint part that is troublesome (and let's face it, he didn't really 'smoke'), but the how and when and why part and what it say about his judgement (or lack of it). Unless you buy the theory that he did it to cleverly deflect attention away from something else.
  - Faaak 8y ago
    I buy the theory that he just wanted to have fun ?
sschueller 8y ago
Space X doesn't need Elon. Gwynne Shotwell [1] and Tom Mueller [2] are doing a great job. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwynne_Shotwell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwynne_Shotwell [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Mueller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Mueller
- sjwright 8y ago
  Apple doesn't need Steve. Tim Cook is doing a great job.
  - Cthulhu_ 8y ago
    You say this tongue-in-cheek but Apple's market value and revenue multiplied five-fold since Jobs died so Cook is doing something right.
    - sjwright 8y ago
      A fair observation, though you could equally argue that Apple's market value and revenue is almost entirely the result of evolutionary progression of ideas already in play during Jobs' lifetime. But for all their present economic success there has been a subtle yet distinct erosion of product clarity and software quality since his passing. Take 3D touch as an example: a great idea in theory but from a UX perspective it's just a bunch of hidden easter eggs. Or the iOS flat UI which sometimes gives zero affordance to the tapability of many elements. Another one: Watch was released with a whole pile of bad assumptions[1] and basically hoping that a market would darwinistically emerge. Luckily one did—fitness and heart health. It could just have easily been an epic flop. [1] Wrapping the equivalent of an iPhone 2G or Macintosh 128k in 18-karat gold. With zero upgrade path. Seriously? Did they really think a first generation wrist gadget was going to be purchased as an heirloom? (And it gets magnificently worse with their rose gold, where the same expensive raw material is chemically molested to look nothing like what anyone would interpret as expensive.)

Faaak 8y ago

How a guy smoking a joint can trouble you is beyond me.

swarnie_ 8y ago
Definitely not the securities fraud or slander on Twitter?
- ben_w 8y ago
  Agreed that weed itself is irrelevant (though I literally don’t believe that $420 wasn’t a drugs reference even though it’s been explicitly denied), unlike violating the rules about manipulating share prices and the defamation on Twitter. Looks to me like chronic overwork. How do we convince him to take a holiday?
  - swarnie_ 8y ago
    Maybe the £420 comment was a typo for $240 and his resent public meltdown are intentional in order to tank the company and buy it out cheap. Ill get the tinfoil now...
dagw 8y ago
It's not the smoking a joint part that is troublesome (and let's face it, he didn't really 'smoke'), but the how and when and why part and what it say about his judgement (or lack of it). Unless you buy the theory that he did it to cleverly deflect attention away from something else.
- Faaak 8y ago
  I buy the theory that he just wanted to have fun ?

sschueller 8y ago

Space X doesn't need Elon. Gwynne Shotwell [1] and Tom Mueller [2] are doing a great job. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwynne_Shotwell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwynne_Shotwell [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Mueller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Mueller

sjwright 8y ago
Apple doesn't need Steve. Tim Cook is doing a great job.
- Cthulhu_ 8y ago
  You say this tongue-in-cheek but Apple's market value and revenue multiplied five-fold since Jobs died so Cook is doing something right.
  - sjwright 8y ago
    A fair observation, though you could equally argue that Apple's market value and revenue is almost entirely the result of evolutionary progression of ideas already in play during Jobs' lifetime. But for all their present economic success there has been a subtle yet distinct erosion of product clarity and software quality since his passing. Take 3D touch as an example: a great idea in theory but from a UX perspective it's just a bunch of hidden easter eggs. Or the iOS flat UI which sometimes gives zero affordance to the tapability of many elements. Another one: Watch was released with a whole pile of bad assumptions[1] and basically hoping that a market would darwinistically emerge. Luckily one did—fitness and heart health. It could just have easily been an epic flop. [1] Wrapping the equivalent of an iPhone 2G or Macintosh 128k in 18-karat gold. With zero upgrade path. Seriously? Did they really think a first generation wrist gadget was going to be purchased as an heirloom? (And it gets magnificently worse with their rose gold, where the same expensive raw material is chemically molested to look nothing like what anyone would interpret as expensive.)