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This is an "art" project because of the media/domains involved, but it's not an art project. It's very low-brow, but not the sort of independent low-brow that

This is an "art" project because of the media/domains involved, but it's not an art project. It's very low-brow, but not the sort of independent low-brow that bursts with charm and zeal. It's too transactional, too structured, too contextualized, and too eagerly public. At best, this sort of big-money, one-off commission leads to the Teleharmonium and EPCOT and the Saatchi gallery, not Schiele or Baraka or I-Be Area. If this project succeeds (which I hope it does, since that'll be good for humanity's efforts to get more active in space), it'll produce some works that can be appreciated as art. But it won't produce classics. People will forget about the works. The advancement into space will rightfully overshadow them. The works won't inspire other artists, and they won't advance any movements. They'll be curiosities studied by space historians, not art historians.

colordrops 8y ago
That's a lot of conjecture for art from unknown artists that hasn't been made yet.
dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
I had a friend like you once. On seeing someone just for a brief moment, she could comment for hours, saying things like "This person will never be rich", "Oh, she definitely has bad relations with her husband", "Obviously he's the kind of person that will fail every project". It turned out that most of her predictions that I could verify turned out false. She got some gut feelings and choose to follow that, but the data sample at her disposal was too small and she jumped to the conclusions way too fast.
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igravious 8y ago
Schiele or Baraka or I-Be Area ? Schiele or Baraka or I-Be Area ? An expressionist painter (now dead), a non-narrative movie-length documentary by someone who still lives, a series of deranged surreal video shorts also by someone living. The only thing that unifies those three things is that you used them in a sentence together. Can I play? Tanguy or Man with a Movie Camera or Dead Mall Series ! Did I win‽
stupidcar 8y ago
Many of the most famous works of classical art in the world were transactional and "eagerly public" in their time. The great artists of the renaissance created many works entirely funded and instigated by rich benefactors or the church, and which were intended for the consumption an awed public. But nowadays we don't look at the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel and think about the politics of the patronage relationship between Pope Julius II and Michelangelo. That's a historical issue, of no importance when considering its long-term artistic merit. Great art transcends its origins, no matter what they are. Indeed, perhaps art is made greater by transcending its origins, just as it is by transcending the limitations of its form. The art created by this project probably won't be great, because most art isn't great. But it certainly could be. And, if so, your a priori dismissal of it will look about as informed as a contemporary renaissance critic dismissing a masterpiece as just another piece of church-funded propaganda.
laken 8y ago
I don't necessarily agree with your point. However, your mention of EPCOT is quite interesting... I never really thought about it this way before, but Musk in a lot of ways is like late-life Walt Disney. Disney started having some _very_ ambitious projects, which never did pan out, especially after his death. Both were incredibly optimistic about the future, even when it was quite illogical. EPCOT was the idea of building a city of the future, and while it was never completed, it still inspired generations. He progressed the field of robotics, all in the name of inspiring and entertaining people, starting with the World's Fairs.

colordrops 8y ago

That's a lot of conjecture for art from unknown artists that hasn't been made yet.

dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago

I had a friend like you once. On seeing someone just for a brief moment, she could comment for hours, saying things like "This person will never be rich", "Oh, she definitely has bad relations with her husband", "Obviously he's the kind of person that will fail every project". It turned out that most of her predictions that I could verify turned out false. She got some gut feelings and choose to follow that, but the data sample at her disposal was too small and she jumped to the conclusions way too fast.

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igravious 8y ago

Schiele or Baraka or I-Be Area ? Schiele or Baraka or I-Be Area ? An expressionist painter (now dead), a non-narrative movie-length documentary by someone who still lives, a series of deranged surreal video shorts also by someone living. The only thing that unifies those three things is that you used them in a sentence together. Can I play? Tanguy or Man with a Movie Camera or Dead Mall Series ! Did I win‽

stupidcar 8y ago

Many of the most famous works of classical art in the world were transactional and "eagerly public" in their time. The great artists of the renaissance created many works entirely funded and instigated by rich benefactors or the church, and which were intended for the consumption an awed public. But nowadays we don't look at the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel and think about the politics of the patronage relationship between Pope Julius II and Michelangelo. That's a historical issue, of no importance when considering its long-term artistic merit. Great art transcends its origins, no matter what they are. Indeed, perhaps art is made greater by transcending its origins, just as it is by transcending the limitations of its form. The art created by this project probably won't be great, because most art isn't great. But it certainly could be. And, if so, your a priori dismissal of it will look about as informed as a contemporary renaissance critic dismissing a masterpiece as just another piece of church-funded propaganda.

laken 8y ago

I don't necessarily agree with your point. However, your mention of EPCOT is quite interesting... I never really thought about it this way before, but Musk in a lot of ways is like late-life Walt Disney. Disney started having some _very_ ambitious projects, which never did pan out, especially after his death. Both were incredibly optimistic about the future, even when it was quite illogical. EPCOT was the idea of building a city of the future, and while it was never completed, it still inspired generations. He progressed the field of robotics, all in the name of inspiring and entertaining people, starting with the World's Fairs.