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ProtonMail is a joke. It doesn't report security vulnerabilities to the users, when researchers discover them[1]. It publicly boasts about hacking a phishing si
by krn 8y ago
ProtonMail is a joke. It doesn't report security vulnerabilities to the users, when researchers discover them[1]. It publicly boasts about hacking a phishing site, when claims the journalist's report is based on "unsubstantiated rumors"[2]. It outsources a free VPN service to a data mining company[3], when claims it used it only as "an office space provider"[4].
[1] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/07/protonmail_fail_javascript/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/07/protonmail_fail_jav...
[2] https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/qvvke7/email-provider-protonmail-says-it-hacked-back-then-walks-claim-back https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/qvvke7/email-prov...
[3] http://litigation.maxval-ip.com/Litigation/DetailView?CaseID=Epee88Womxg%3D&logstat=false&Party=Luminati%20Networks%20Ltd.%20v.%20UAB%20Tesonet http://litigation.maxval-ip.com/Litigation/DetailView?CaseID...
[4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17775554 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17775554
- martincmartin 8y agoWhat's a better alternative?
- russdpale 8y agoI personally prefer tutanota
- krn 8y agoMailbox.org and Posteo.de are currently the best ranked privacy-focused email providers[1]. Both are based in Berlin, and are extremely low-profile. Mailbox.org supports custom domains, Posteo.de doesn't. [1] https://dismail.de/serverlist.html https://dismail.de/serverlist.html
- enz 8y agoI use Gandi's email service because they offer you a mailbox when you buy a domain from them (and you use your domain of course). It is based in France (9 eyes).
- 4d66ba06 8y agoI hadn't seen that. I'll need to look into things more after reading this: http://vpnscam.com/tesonet-data-mining-company-owns-nordvpn-protonmail-protonvpn/ http://vpnscam.com/tesonet-data-mining-company-owns-nordvpn-...
- krn 8y agoIt's true, that Tesonet operates both, NordVPN and ProtonVPN, but it's not true, that Tesonet has any ownership of ProtonMail, as far as I'm aware of. ProtonVPN seems to be a partnership between ProtonMail and Tesonet.
- protonmail 8y agoNo, that is not correct, and for some reason, you post this misinformation in every single topic about ProtonMail. It seems likely you are affiliated with the people who are putting out these false statements in the first place. We have previously responded to these claims here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn_and_tesonet/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn...
- krn 8y ago> We have previously responded to these claims here: And I already responded to your denial here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17789334 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17789334 You are a shady company at best.
- protonmail 8y agoA lot of inaccuracies in that reply. PIA troll (maybe also you, the same person, given the similarities) also made a nearly identical reply in the Reddit thread we linked previously, which we also replied to: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn_and_tesonet/e224ufg/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn...
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- a012 8y agoEverytime there's Protonmail link, there's "Protonmail is a joke" comment. I sense a circlejerk or some kind of anti-vax provocation.