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I've heard the expresion "Network Neutrality" used to describe a situation where carriers like Cablevision treat all sources of content (like Fox) equally. Is

I've heard the expresion "Network Neutrality" used to describe a situation where carriers like Cablevision treat all sources of content (like Fox) equally. Is this a failure of the carrier to treat all content equally? Or is this something else? I'm not familiar with the dispute, however it appears that Cablevision were already paying Fox M$75 for its content. Why were they paying for the content? Is Hulu free or do you pay a fee for it? Does Fox have a business model where ISPs pay for Hulu and then their customers get it bundled with their internet access? I don't understand the entire story here, so I'm not 100% sure this is exactly the same thing that most people talk about when they use the phrase "network neutrality."

X-Istence 16y ago
Cablevision (their Optimum Online service) is both an ISP and a Cable TV provider. Fox wants more money so in an attempt to put pressure on Cablevision has shut off Cablevision's access to Fox content on both the internet and on cable TV. Or more aptly, to Cablevisions customers...
- raganwald 16y ago
  I got what you summarized from the article. But why was Cablevision paying in the first place, and more importantly, is this a case of Network Neutrality failing or something else? If I put up my blog and try to extract a payment from ISPs in exchange for making it available to their customers, how is that a failure of network neutrality? I'm just a guy with an unlikely-to-succeed business model. But it's my content to extend or withold as I see fit. My understanding of the network neutrality debate is that it is around ISPs governing access to content, not content providers governing access. My question above isn't about the OP as much as it's a question is to how--if at all--this relates to network neutrality.
ben1040 16y ago
Does Fox have a business model where ISPs pay for Hulu and then their customers get it bundled with their internet access? I'm sure Fox would love to have something like this, but right now this isn't how Hulu works. It's paid for by advertising on the television service (or premium Hulu Plus subscriptions paid by individual consumers), so cutting this off is really just sour grapes on Fox's part. ESPN does run such an arrangement with their ESPN3 streaming service -- it's only available if your ISP has paid ESPN, or if you're a user at a university.

X-Istence 16y ago

Cablevision (their Optimum Online service) is both an ISP and a Cable TV provider. Fox wants more money so in an attempt to put pressure on Cablevision has shut off Cablevision's access to Fox content on both the internet and on cable TV. Or more aptly, to Cablevisions customers...

raganwald 16y ago
I got what you summarized from the article. But why was Cablevision paying in the first place, and more importantly, is this a case of Network Neutrality failing or something else? If I put up my blog and try to extract a payment from ISPs in exchange for making it available to their customers, how is that a failure of network neutrality? I'm just a guy with an unlikely-to-succeed business model. But it's my content to extend or withold as I see fit. My understanding of the network neutrality debate is that it is around ISPs governing access to content, not content providers governing access. My question above isn't about the OP as much as it's a question is to how--if at all--this relates to network neutrality.

ben1040 16y ago

Does Fox have a business model where ISPs pay for Hulu and then their customers get it bundled with their internet access? I'm sure Fox would love to have something like this, but right now this isn't how Hulu works. It's paid for by advertising on the television service (or premium Hulu Plus subscriptions paid by individual consumers), so cutting this off is really just sour grapes on Fox's part. ESPN does run such an arrangement with their ESPN3 streaming service -- it's only available if your ISP has paid ESPN, or if you're a user at a university.