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This the most stable iOS beta I've ever used. It's exciting to see Apple focus on quality, even if the marketing page doesn't end up as flashy.

jug 8y ago
Yes, it’s been completely different compared to both iOS 10 and 11 betas where the latter can barely be called stable even in the GM release. I hope it’s the fruits of some change in engineering.
speg 8y ago
Already noticing small but appreciated performance improvements. Share sheet and app switching both came up noticeably quicker. Am loving shortcuts, looks like they didn't dumb it down. There's even an SSH action.
- X-Istence 8y ago
  Which app is providing the SSH action?
  - speg 8y ago
    No idea, I didn't dig into it. I think it had the general "Settings" gear as the icon so maybe it's provided by iOS?
  - tmottabr 8y ago
    It is the app formally named "workflow" that apple acquired some time ago. It got renamed to "shortcut" for iOS 12 and has this ssh action in it. If you already had the old "workflow" app it will be updated to the new "shortcut" app, if you do not have it you need to install it from the App Store.
    - X-Istence 8y ago
      I am familiar with shortcuts, but I didn't think that there was an actual SSH action that was shipped with it, I thought there was an SSH action that an application may be providing. I'll have to check it out.
  - 0x0 8y ago
    In iOS settings > workflow (yes, it is still labeled workflow in iOS settings!), it credits NMSSH which appears to be an objc wrapper on top of libssh2.
- simongr3dal 8y ago
  Sadly it doesn't look like it supports ssh-keys.
  - xnyan 8y ago
    I only use SSH keys, but if one uses a sufficiently complex password my understanding is that the primary risk of a password vs key is that the SSH host gets a copy of it (specifically /etc/shadow). If you control the host, I could see a password being an acceptable solution, maybe. Worlflow/shortcuts can also arbitrarily HTTP GET/POSTs which is likely the better route in any case.
tedmiston 8y ago
> This the most stable iOS beta I've ever used. Is it a beta? It looks like the official release to me.
- et2o 8y ago
  I think OP is implying he/she has been using the beta iOS 12 and it is stable.
- bruceboughton 8y ago
  The joke is that the .0 releases are actually beta quality.
cutety 8y ago
Been running iOS betas on my primary device since around iOS 8 or 9, and never really experienced any super annoying bugs until the 11 beta, which made me question if I really wanted to run betas on my phone ever again. But, my impatience gave out and I upgraded to the 12 beta, and it was like I had a new phone. Updated to the GM a couple days ago and my 6S is running as good as the day I got it. Super happy with iOS 12 currently.
GW150914 8y ago
It really is great. I was having terrible input lag before, and now it’s completely gone. Everything from switching apps to opening a new webpage seems zippier too. Autocorrect seems to have gotten a bit of an upgrade, it’s suggestions are coming up much faster and they’re a bit easier to select.
zimmund 8y ago
I had a different experience: after some updates, around build 7 or 8 I lost cellular connectivity completely. It said there wasn't carrier data available and that I should update. To update, I needed to verify the download... which failed because it didn't have access to the modem/carrier data, even though wifi should have been enough. Long story short, I had to do a restore from iTunes (another nightmare for me -Linux user-), and after that discover that my backup "wasn't compatible" (fortunately I had made a manual backup of my photos and other content, but all the settings got lost). I've been using iOS for a year now and I definitely miss Android, even if it isn't as polished as iOS.

jug 8y ago

Yes, it’s been completely different compared to both iOS 10 and 11 betas where the latter can barely be called stable even in the GM release. I hope it’s the fruits of some change in engineering.

speg 8y ago

Already noticing small but appreciated performance improvements. Share sheet and app switching both came up noticeably quicker. Am loving shortcuts, looks like they didn't dumb it down. There's even an SSH action.

X-Istence 8y ago
Which app is providing the SSH action?
- speg 8y ago
  No idea, I didn't dig into it. I think it had the general "Settings" gear as the icon so maybe it's provided by iOS?
- tmottabr 8y ago
  It is the app formally named "workflow" that apple acquired some time ago. It got renamed to "shortcut" for iOS 12 and has this ssh action in it. If you already had the old "workflow" app it will be updated to the new "shortcut" app, if you do not have it you need to install it from the App Store.
  - X-Istence 8y ago
    I am familiar with shortcuts, but I didn't think that there was an actual SSH action that was shipped with it, I thought there was an SSH action that an application may be providing. I'll have to check it out.
- 0x0 8y ago
  In iOS settings > workflow (yes, it is still labeled workflow in iOS settings!), it credits NMSSH which appears to be an objc wrapper on top of libssh2.
simongr3dal 8y ago
Sadly it doesn't look like it supports ssh-keys.
- xnyan 8y ago
  I only use SSH keys, but if one uses a sufficiently complex password my understanding is that the primary risk of a password vs key is that the SSH host gets a copy of it (specifically /etc/shadow). If you control the host, I could see a password being an acceptable solution, maybe. Worlflow/shortcuts can also arbitrarily HTTP GET/POSTs which is likely the better route in any case.

tedmiston 8y ago

> This the most stable iOS beta I've ever used. Is it a beta? It looks like the official release to me.

et2o 8y ago
I think OP is implying he/she has been using the beta iOS 12 and it is stable.
bruceboughton 8y ago
The joke is that the .0 releases are actually beta quality.

cutety 8y ago

Been running iOS betas on my primary device since around iOS 8 or 9, and never really experienced any super annoying bugs until the 11 beta, which made me question if I really wanted to run betas on my phone ever again. But, my impatience gave out and I upgraded to the 12 beta, and it was like I had a new phone. Updated to the GM a couple days ago and my 6S is running as good as the day I got it. Super happy with iOS 12 currently.

GW150914 8y ago

It really is great. I was having terrible input lag before, and now it’s completely gone. Everything from switching apps to opening a new webpage seems zippier too. Autocorrect seems to have gotten a bit of an upgrade, it’s suggestions are coming up much faster and they’re a bit easier to select.

zimmund 8y ago

I had a different experience: after some updates, around build 7 or 8 I lost cellular connectivity completely. It said there wasn't carrier data available and that I should update. To update, I needed to verify the download... which failed because it didn't have access to the modem/carrier data, even though wifi should have been enough. Long story short, I had to do a restore from iTunes (another nightmare for me -Linux user-), and after that discover that my backup "wasn't compatible" (fortunately I had made a manual backup of my photos and other content, but all the settings got lost). I've been using iOS for a year now and I definitely miss Android, even if it isn't as polished as iOS.