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Tough on crime has gone out of style. We had our primaries recently and only a few conservative dinosaurs even mentioned ToC in their voter biography. Most of t

by yardie 8y ago

Tough on crime has gone out of style. We had our primaries recently and only a few conservative dinosaurs even mentioned ToC in their voter biography. Most of the candidates running for AD, circuit judge, and other legal offices were drumming up their crime intervention bonafides.

rectang 8y ago
Voter suppression through felony disenfranchisement, however, remains en vogue. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/florida-felons-want-their-voting-rights-restored/570103/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/florida... "In Florida, more than 21 percent of black adults are disenfranchised because of this policy."
- bilbo0s 8y ago
  Certain states are likely to remain relatively worse places for minorities, particularly blacks, to live. But the system is bent in this manner everywhere, including California. The diffference, of course, is that in Florida the voting populace has collectively decided that they like the way things currently work. Whereas in places like California, the voting populace is deciding for a lot of reasons that they don't like the current situation.
  - beat 8y ago
    Even the most backwards parts of the Deep South are just trailing, but they're on the same path. They'll catch up eventually. There was a time when lynch mobs were normal in the South.
- fipple 8y ago
  Maybe don’t commit felonies?
  - djajshgsjja 8y ago
    It’s harder than it sounds! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594035229/ref=as_li_tl_nodl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1594035229&linkCode=as2&tag=dailywealth-20&linkId=CA5CXIZ6CIUVXAOK https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594035229/ref=as_li_tl_no...
- Fjolsvith 8y ago
  They can move to Kansas where they could vote Republican.
  - Fjolsvith 8y ago
    Just saying...
- LocalH 8y ago
  I never understood the mindset of "oh, this person committed a crime, let's disallow them from voting in the future". My opinion is, if society has decided that an individual does not get to exercise their right to vote, then they also should have no tax liability. No taxation without representation, and all that jazz. I guarantee you if they were forced to make the choice between the two, they'd immediately reinstate every felon's voting rights.
40acres 8y ago
For sure, we are also starting to see more minority district attorneys and attorney generals. I don't have stats to back this up to sense a trend but America recently had their first black AG (Holder, Lynch) and California and New York have had minority AGs recently (Kamala Harris & Becerra for CA, NY recently elected Letitia James for the democratic nomination and she is likely to win the general)
ataturk 8y ago
It's fine to not run on "tough on crime" because it was always bs anyhow. HOWEVER, I am watching what has been going on in the large midwest cities near my home and the lack of enforcement is causing crime to soar. There are definite and measurable consequences to not letting police do their jobs. In my city, which is really just a large suburb, we have a guy up the street who is shooting guns at street signs from his back porch. There is a park and a church right behind where he is shooting. I brought this to the attention of the police as did another neighbor, but nothing has been done about it. I even showed them how I could tell where the bullets were coming from, it's not rocket science to see how each sign was hit at a certain angle. But no, I don't even think the cop was intelligent enough to understand what I told her. It's also sad that we have a former army vet who is drunk or on drugs and goes out and shoots at signs at night--no respect for his community, his neighbors, himself, or anyone. If it takes bringing back caning or whatever, it's a small price to pay for civilization to continue. And whether drugs are legal or not, they're a terrible idea, they will destroy your life the same as alcohol and cigarettes.

by yardie 8y ago

rectang 8y ago

Voter suppression through felony disenfranchisement, however, remains en vogue. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/florida-felons-want-their-voting-rights-restored/570103/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/florida... "In Florida, more than 21 percent of black adults are disenfranchised because of this policy."

bilbo0s 8y ago
Certain states are likely to remain relatively worse places for minorities, particularly blacks, to live. But the system is bent in this manner everywhere, including California. The diffference, of course, is that in Florida the voting populace has collectively decided that they like the way things currently work. Whereas in places like California, the voting populace is deciding for a lot of reasons that they don't like the current situation.
- beat 8y ago
  Even the most backwards parts of the Deep South are just trailing, but they're on the same path. They'll catch up eventually. There was a time when lynch mobs were normal in the South.
fipple 8y ago
Maybe don’t commit felonies?
- djajshgsjja 8y ago
  It’s harder than it sounds! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594035229/ref=as_li_tl_nodl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1594035229&linkCode=as2&tag=dailywealth-20&linkId=CA5CXIZ6CIUVXAOK https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594035229/ref=as_li_tl_no...
Fjolsvith 8y ago
They can move to Kansas where they could vote Republican.
- Fjolsvith 8y ago
  Just saying...
LocalH 8y ago
I never understood the mindset of "oh, this person committed a crime, let's disallow them from voting in the future". My opinion is, if society has decided that an individual does not get to exercise their right to vote, then they also should have no tax liability. No taxation without representation, and all that jazz. I guarantee you if they were forced to make the choice between the two, they'd immediately reinstate every felon's voting rights.

40acres 8y ago

For sure, we are also starting to see more minority district attorneys and attorney generals. I don't have stats to back this up to sense a trend but America recently had their first black AG (Holder, Lynch) and California and New York have had minority AGs recently (Kamala Harris & Becerra for CA, NY recently elected Letitia James for the democratic nomination and she is likely to win the general)

ataturk 8y ago

It's fine to not run on "tough on crime" because it was always bs anyhow. HOWEVER, I am watching what has been going on in the large midwest cities near my home and the lack of enforcement is causing crime to soar. There are definite and measurable consequences to not letting police do their jobs. In my city, which is really just a large suburb, we have a guy up the street who is shooting guns at street signs from his back porch. There is a park and a church right behind where he is shooting. I brought this to the attention of the police as did another neighbor, but nothing has been done about it. I even showed them how I could tell where the bullets were coming from, it's not rocket science to see how each sign was hit at a certain angle. But no, I don't even think the cop was intelligent enough to understand what I told her. It's also sad that we have a former army vet who is drunk or on drugs and goes out and shoots at signs at night--no respect for his community, his neighbors, himself, or anyone. If it takes bringing back caning or whatever, it's a small price to pay for civilization to continue. And whether drugs are legal or not, they're a terrible idea, they will destroy your life the same as alcohol and cigarettes.