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I don't know, I've watched the keynote, and it just looked to me like Allison was right in saying that the company without Steve Jobs would go down. Pretty con

I don't know, I've watched the keynote, and it just looked to me like Allison was right in saying that the company without Steve Jobs would go down. Pretty considerably and pretty quickly, too, IMO.

saagarjha 8y ago
Which keynote are you talking about? I thought the release of iOS 12 at WWDC was relatively well received.
- nkkollaw 8y ago
  The one about the new iPhones, not WWDC.
rimliu 8y ago
So in 7 years since SJ died they went to be 1T company. It that fast enough and down enough yet?
- nkkollaw 8y ago
  If money is your only metric, sure. There are also borderline criminal corporations that do great in the stock market while enslaving children and destroying the environment. In the meantime, Apple managed to piss off most of their creative/developers user base, their software got so bad from a usability point of view that it's become a nightmare to use, their hardware barely gets upgraded and they need class actions to acknowledge that their idiotic inventions make computers unusable as computers (keyboard fiasco). As for their most successful product (the iPhone): the notch, removing the headphone jack and removing the home button, and other design choices might be a matter of preference, but look very misguided to me--to the point that if anyone gave me any of their newer phones I wouldn't hesitate to sell it and buy a decent one from another brand. What has Apple done in the last few years? A bigger iPad? A keyboard that stops working if dust gets under the keys? Removed a few ports people would use every day so that their products are a few millimeters thinner? The only reason why Apple makes money is because it's a status symbol to have Apple products and they sell overpriced, inferior hardware components, not because their products are worth the money anymore. I think people will wake up to that, sooner or later.

I don't know, I've watched the keynote, and it just looked to me like Allison was right in saying that the company without Steve Jobs would go down. Pretty considerably and pretty quickly, too, IMO.

saagarjha 8y ago

Which keynote are you talking about? I thought the release of iOS 12 at WWDC was relatively well received.

nkkollaw 8y ago
The one about the new iPhones, not WWDC.

rimliu 8y ago

So in 7 years since SJ died they went to be 1T company. It that fast enough and down enough yet?

nkkollaw 8y ago
If money is your only metric, sure. There are also borderline criminal corporations that do great in the stock market while enslaving children and destroying the environment. In the meantime, Apple managed to piss off most of their creative/developers user base, their software got so bad from a usability point of view that it's become a nightmare to use, their hardware barely gets upgraded and they need class actions to acknowledge that their idiotic inventions make computers unusable as computers (keyboard fiasco). As for their most successful product (the iPhone): the notch, removing the headphone jack and removing the home button, and other design choices might be a matter of preference, but look very misguided to me--to the point that if anyone gave me any of their newer phones I wouldn't hesitate to sell it and buy a decent one from another brand. What has Apple done in the last few years? A bigger iPad? A keyboard that stops working if dust gets under the keys? Removed a few ports people would use every day so that their products are a few millimeters thinner? The only reason why Apple makes money is because it's a status symbol to have Apple products and they sell overpriced, inferior hardware components, not because their products are worth the money anymore. I think people will wake up to that, sooner or later.