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What I would like is a browser plugin/extension that jails every website in it's own cookie space. That way websites(and all trackers on that website) can only

What I would like is a browser plugin/extension that jails every website in it's own cookie space. That way websites(and all trackers on that website) can only read their own cookies. Is there anything like that out there?

taf2 8y ago
Have you tried google profiles. It’s not every website but you can for example organize your browsing habits such as social, entertainment, and work into unique browser profiles at least you can do this in chrome
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- tome 8y ago
  It seems highly unlikely that Google developed a technology that allows you to stop them tracking you.
hrktb 8y ago
Firefox has. It screws third party logins and integration (mainly google/facebook logins) and Google’s captchas, which will be way harder than when cookies are shared.
- RaleyField 8y ago
  > It screws third party logins and integration Sounds like a feature to me.
- bogomipz 8y ago
  >"It screws third party logins and integration (mainly google/facebook logins) and Google’s captchas, which will be way harder than when cookies are shared." Could you elaborate on this? Whats the connection between shared cookies and Google's captcha intenstity? Thanks.
  - hrktb 8y ago
    There was this post a discussed here a few weeks ago: https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/firefox-fpi https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/firefox-fpi In short, Google uses part of its behavioral data to decide beforehand how much of a captcha is needed. With no data at all you get the full blown one.
    - bogomipz 8y ago
      Wow, from your link: >"As I noted only recently, Google reCAPTCHA has a 99,3 % global marketshare in CAPTCHA services. No CAPTCHA reCAPTCHA uses Google’s knowledge and insights about you from tracking you around the web to determine whether you’re a computer or a human; instead of asking you to pass a cognitive tests. Google seem to have reduced confidence in their ability to identify you as a human with reduced tracking and an unusual number of unique users (every website is assigned different tracking/user ID/user instead of sharing the same ID) from your IP address." Google has literally become a gatekeeper for substantial part of the web. I had not seen that statistic before. I'm surprised this particular point is not discussed more. More recently I have just stopped using captchas when possible. I just won't sign up for the service. I'm not sure how else to fight this. The idea that you should penalized for trying to protect your privacy is truly reprehensible.
wool_gather 8y ago
Firefox's Facebook Container was mentioned in the article, and they have a related tool "Multi-account Containers" [0] that I think was mentioned on HN a few days ago. (Haven't tried either of them myself.) [0]:https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...
- tialaramex 8y ago
  Facebook Container is very nice. It's curated by the development team, so you just install it and now "Pow" your Facebook is inside a Container. Like, if you click your existing Facebook bookmark, or follow an email link to a Facebook post, anything like that, the page is inside the container, but not only are your other tabs not in the container (so they don't share cookies etcetera) even the tab with Facebook in, stops being inside the container if you leave Facebook. So long as you aren't relying on Facebook to log you into other sites, it's pretty seamless, and any edges (including that one) are consequences of the containerisation itself, they're evidence it's protecting you. For example, I pay for Youtube, so I don't see adverts, but inside the Facebook container Youtube has no idea that's me, so any Youtube videos embedded in Facebook have ads like for other users. If I leave Facebook and play the same video outside, no adverts. Multi-account containers aren't curated (well, you do the curating) so for non-trivial sites (where they'd be most useful) you can expect to spend time tweaking things to ensure that e.g. MyBank-savings.example is inside the same container as MyBank-account.example and NewBrandFor-MyBank.example as otherwise confusing stuff can happen as the containers isolate things you actually wanted connected.
8_hours_ago 8y ago
Firefox containers attempts to solve this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...
v8engine 8y ago
https://sessionbox.io/discover https://sessionbox.io/discover
- v8engine 8y ago
  This extension does the same thing for chrome.

taf2 8y ago

Have you tried google profiles. It’s not every website but you can for example organize your browsing habits such as social, entertainment, and work into unique browser profiles at least you can do this in chrome

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tome 8y ago
It seems highly unlikely that Google developed a technology that allows you to stop them tracking you.

hrktb 8y ago

Firefox has. It screws third party logins and integration (mainly google/facebook logins) and Google’s captchas, which will be way harder than when cookies are shared.

RaleyField 8y ago
> It screws third party logins and integration Sounds like a feature to me.
bogomipz 8y ago
>"It screws third party logins and integration (mainly google/facebook logins) and Google’s captchas, which will be way harder than when cookies are shared." Could you elaborate on this? Whats the connection between shared cookies and Google's captcha intenstity? Thanks.
- hrktb 8y ago
  There was this post a discussed here a few weeks ago: https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/firefox-fpi https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/firefox-fpi In short, Google uses part of its behavioral data to decide beforehand how much of a captcha is needed. With no data at all you get the full blown one.
  - bogomipz 8y ago
    Wow, from your link: >"As I noted only recently, Google reCAPTCHA has a 99,3 % global marketshare in CAPTCHA services. No CAPTCHA reCAPTCHA uses Google’s knowledge and insights about you from tracking you around the web to determine whether you’re a computer or a human; instead of asking you to pass a cognitive tests. Google seem to have reduced confidence in their ability to identify you as a human with reduced tracking and an unusual number of unique users (every website is assigned different tracking/user ID/user instead of sharing the same ID) from your IP address." Google has literally become a gatekeeper for substantial part of the web. I had not seen that statistic before. I'm surprised this particular point is not discussed more. More recently I have just stopped using captchas when possible. I just won't sign up for the service. I'm not sure how else to fight this. The idea that you should penalized for trying to protect your privacy is truly reprehensible.

wool_gather 8y ago

Firefox's Facebook Container was mentioned in the article, and they have a related tool "Multi-account Containers" [0] that I think was mentioned on HN a few days ago. (Haven't tried either of them myself.) [0]:https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

tialaramex 8y ago
Facebook Container is very nice. It's curated by the development team, so you just install it and now "Pow" your Facebook is inside a Container. Like, if you click your existing Facebook bookmark, or follow an email link to a Facebook post, anything like that, the page is inside the container, but not only are your other tabs not in the container (so they don't share cookies etcetera) even the tab with Facebook in, stops being inside the container if you leave Facebook. So long as you aren't relying on Facebook to log you into other sites, it's pretty seamless, and any edges (including that one) are consequences of the containerisation itself, they're evidence it's protecting you. For example, I pay for Youtube, so I don't see adverts, but inside the Facebook container Youtube has no idea that's me, so any Youtube videos embedded in Facebook have ads like for other users. If I leave Facebook and play the same video outside, no adverts. Multi-account containers aren't curated (well, you do the curating) so for non-trivial sites (where they'd be most useful) you can expect to spend time tweaking things to ensure that e.g. MyBank-savings.example is inside the same container as MyBank-account.example and NewBrandFor-MyBank.example as otherwise confusing stuff can happen as the containers isolate things you actually wanted connected.

8_hours_ago 8y ago

Firefox containers attempts to solve this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

v8engine 8y ago

https://sessionbox.io/discover https://sessionbox.io/discover

v8engine 8y ago
This extension does the same thing for chrome.