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Sure .. As long as everybody who voted takes their receipt, and is willing to go to the government and demand proof that their vote was counted. Let's see, in t

Sure .. As long as everybody who voted takes their receipt, and is willing to go to the government and demand proof that their vote was counted. Let's see, in the USA you get 54% voter turn-out .. a re-count requiring those receipts should get what, 15, maybe 20% of those voters to participate? There. No.

smileysteve 8y ago
> As long as everybody who voted takes their receipt Voters strictly can't take a record of their receipt; this opens up a whole other level of voter intimidation, where, if you voted for the wrong person you lose your job, lose benefits, get beat up, get killed.
- mtone 8y ago
  Couldn't the receipt of votes be an encrypted result derived from the voter's key for which only the government/district has the private key ? It would not show the vote but only guarantee that your vote has not been modified. You could go to the government to get the vote confirmed privately. Ideally, assuming you would be voting with a key linked to your identity (SIN), both the IDs of voters and their votes could be entirely public and on your receipt. The act of counting votes would be for a set of parties to be work with only the public list and given the private key(s) to generate results. The trust there should be similar to counting paper ballots, especially if independent parties combine subsets and arrive at the same result.
  - smileysteve 8y ago
    Yes, that would be possible; but is significantly beyond what people typically mean when they say "just give me receipt" > Ideally, assuming you would be voting with a key linked to your identity (SIN), both the IDs of voters and their votes could be entirely public and on your receipt. What piece of your identity does your employer not have access to? In the U.S. they've typically seen your id, your passport, your pay stubs, your health insurance.
- expathacker 8y ago
  It's been a long time, but somewhere I voted, maybe California or Michigan, but somewhere I voted gave me a real receipt. It had a bar-code that was tied not to my identity, but to my ballot itself. The "receipt" was a perforated piece of paper with a barcode. The votes were cast by connecting lines, and the right half of that line crossed the perforation lines, and was mine to keep. This seemed like a reasonable system, and I could then verify that my vote was counted. As for voter intimidation, if we really believe that our democracy is worth killing and dying for in foreign wars, then it would logically follow that we must accept the risk of demanding accountability domestically.

smileysteve 8y ago

> As long as everybody who voted takes their receipt Voters strictly can't take a record of their receipt; this opens up a whole other level of voter intimidation, where, if you voted for the wrong person you lose your job, lose benefits, get beat up, get killed.

mtone 8y ago
Couldn't the receipt of votes be an encrypted result derived from the voter's key for which only the government/district has the private key ? It would not show the vote but only guarantee that your vote has not been modified. You could go to the government to get the vote confirmed privately. Ideally, assuming you would be voting with a key linked to your identity (SIN), both the IDs of voters and their votes could be entirely public and on your receipt. The act of counting votes would be for a set of parties to be work with only the public list and given the private key(s) to generate results. The trust there should be similar to counting paper ballots, especially if independent parties combine subsets and arrive at the same result.
- smileysteve 8y ago
  Yes, that would be possible; but is significantly beyond what people typically mean when they say "just give me receipt" > Ideally, assuming you would be voting with a key linked to your identity (SIN), both the IDs of voters and their votes could be entirely public and on your receipt. What piece of your identity does your employer not have access to? In the U.S. they've typically seen your id, your passport, your pay stubs, your health insurance.
expathacker 8y ago
It's been a long time, but somewhere I voted, maybe California or Michigan, but somewhere I voted gave me a real receipt. It had a bar-code that was tied not to my identity, but to my ballot itself. The "receipt" was a perforated piece of paper with a barcode. The votes were cast by connecting lines, and the right half of that line crossed the perforation lines, and was mine to keep. This seemed like a reasonable system, and I could then verify that my vote was counted. As for voter intimidation, if we really believe that our democracy is worth killing and dying for in foreign wars, then it would logically follow that we must accept the risk of demanding accountability domestically.