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Personal anecdote: Growing up, from maybe late teens up past 30 I'd say, I was a fanatical adherent of the Irish Times. It's considered to be "centre-right" in
by rusk 8y ago
Personal anecdote: Growing up, from maybe late teens up past 30 I'd say, I was a fanatical adherent of the Irish Times. It's considered to be "centre-right" in its editorial but was also a quality publication, with great editorial and journalistic standards, and still is by far the best Irish daily newspaper (the standard otherwise is not great).
I would devour it. Gobble down her op-eds. Take my thinking from it, even proudly claiming to shocked friends from time to time that it's "where I get my opinion". I was pro-business, anti-union - a champion of conservative values and believed that society adequately served the honest and hard-working.
I bought it every day. I'd proudly strut about with it tucked under my arm. They could have told me black was white and I'd have lapped it up.
About 10 years ago a few things changed, and I can't say what exactly. The editor turned over from a lady who was a distinguished journalist to "some other old guy" - maybe that was it. Maybe it was the financial crisis brought about a lowering of quality standards or a need to compromise values. Or maybe it was the change in government that brought about a regime that was more harmonious with their editorial ideals. The Irish Times has strong ties both presently, and historically with the current ruling party but all through my youth they were in opposition and perhaps this gave the IT a rebellious note.
Maybe I was just getting older and wiser.
Probably all this coming together; but I started to notice the cracks more and more. Not just partiality, but sloppy, careless reporting. Some stuff just downright and even dangerously wrong at times.
They used to be subscriber-only but had some years hence gone purely ad-driven; when they started to go back to being subscriber only I jumped on it because I hoped that subscriber-driven revenue would improve journalistic standards. I enthusiastically battled in the comments section with the freeloading whingers as I saw them.
I signed up for the online edition and to have the weekend edition delivered (getting the delivery to actually come was a litany of operational issues that I won't get into now).
But nothing improved. They spent a bit more money on the site, and rebranded the print edition. That was it. They started introducing more and more obtrusive advertising, and the coverage just got more and more partisan and pro-establishment until one day, they printed just outright lies about the outcome of a trial I had been following closely.
That was it. I was done. The desperate bastards couldn't even give me a way to unsubscribe online. I actually had to ring them up on a number that I found buried in the terms and conditions. Even then on the phone they wanted to know the whys and wherefores and if I'd be back. They were pleasant and polite as was I with them.
Since then I've watched them spiral down down down. They're at a point now where they're presenting different agendas to different "segments": Online subscriber-only articles tend to be more progressive in their outlook. The free-access stuff is grotesquely click-baity. The print edition caters to the stuffy older more conservative readership.
This is a newspaper that claims to be the "Newspaper of Record". It saddens me that it's still far and away the best daily on Irish newstands though.
Sorry for the rant. It's kind of like when Luis Figo went to Real Madrid. One Barca fan recorded as saying "We hate him so much because we loved him so much".
- circlefavshape 8y agoIIRC the op-eds were always fairly variable in quality. Surely you haven't forgotten Kevin Myers?
- rusk 8y agoI invoke Gell-Mann amnesia :-) - also worth noting that he got the boot before I attained full adulthood.
- scandox 8y agoKevin O'Sullivan - I'm sure he's a nice man - just didn't have any guts or vision. First day of his editorship they ran the first ever hint of Advertorial I ever saw there: a lottery ad in columns that slightly bled down into an article. Geraldine Kennedy had some serious backbone and she wasn't driven by business considerations. On the other hand the corporate side made some horrific blunders during her tenure though I don't know to what extent she was involved with that.
- rusk 8y agoPretty much my thoughts. Regarding Ms Kennedy, I imagine her to be a newswoman first and foremost and I wouldn't expect her to have to take responsibility for the business end of things. That would be the board in my view of things, and also in my view its the board that is steering things from the aft these days. Geraldine was a blip, we're seeing IT's real colours (blue) these days. IT is still suffering from a few spectacular business blunders in the late 90s/00s, but who knows how many people personally benefited from these mistakes. That's modern Ireland.
- gowld 8y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M "In this timeless clip, Prime Minister, Jim Hacker explains to Sir Humphrey and Bernard the importance of the papers and who reads which one." https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0751828/quotes https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0751828/quotes Sir Humphrey: The only way to understand the Press is to remember that they pander to their readers' prejudices. Jim Hacker: Don't tell me about the Press. I know exactly who reads the papers. * The Daily Mirror is read by the people who think they run the country. * The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country. * The Times is read by the people who actually do run the country. * The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country. * The Financial Times is read by people who own the country. * The Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country. * The Daily Telegraph is read by the people who think it is. Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about the people who read The Sun? Bernard Woolley: Sun readers don't care who runs the country as long as she's got big