> this does not necessarily imply dishonesty or trickery. arguably, the most charismatic people might be those that are true believers Not ruling out that a tr

> this does not necessarily imply dishonesty or trickery. arguably, the most charismatic people might be those that are true believers Not ruling out that a true believer might have deceived themselves! (It's turtles all the way down when trying to answer that about yourself.)