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It’s a straw man meant to excuse bad behavior as the only way to provide strong direction. Pushovers are not the under discussion here: Torvalds’ behavior is.
by grzm 8y ago
It’s a straw man meant to excuse bad behavior as the only way to provide strong direction. Pushovers are not the under discussion here: Torvalds’ behavior is.
- DoreenMichele 8y agoOr perhaps an acknowledgement that people are imperfect and the world is imperfect and, if you want to accomplish things, x all-too-common defect is preferable to y all-too-common defect.
- grzm 8y agoIn other contexts, perhaps. I don’t read the comment I initially replied to as supporting that interpretation, even reading charitably. They explicitly separate people into (primarily) two groups: "I'll take an asshole over a pushover any day, and most of us are pushovers."
- DoreenMichele 8y agoWell, that's exactly what I see in the comment in question.
- staticassertion 8y agoThey very clearly are setting up a false dichotomy. They support one side by stating that it is preferable to the other (when there are no sides to begin with). You have to be willfully ignorant to read it otherwise. As blatant support of this, "People give up ability to say certain things in the name of inclusion, and then lose ability to think those things in the first place." This is a clear testament that there are two sides and you must 'give up' something (ie: become a pushover) to not be an asshole.
- DoreenMichele 8y agoYou have to be willfully ignorant to read it otherwise. This is a personal insult. Ironic given what you are arguing "for" in theory.
- komali2 8y agoI disagree that that level of asshole behavior is all-too-common. I've never encountered anybody like Linus professionally and if I did I simply wouldn't work with/for/over them.
- DoreenMichele 8y agoWell, that looks to me like moving the goal posts. Saying "that level of asshole behavior" isn't common is fundamentally different from what I said.
- icelancer 8y agoFortunately, plenty of other people managed to do so.