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Almost certainly Linus didn't write his rants in order to gain some sort of sadistic pleasure I don't find that assertion convincing. I guess what would be ca

Almost certainly Linus didn't write his rants in order to gain some sort of sadistic pleasure I don't find that assertion convincing. I guess what would be called abusive by many was merely a "stern talking-to" to Linus. Which is why he needs therapy. It would be great if we would hold ourselves to higher standard of professionalism and stop apologizing for toxic behavior in software engineering. I've never seen another industry where abusive infighting is considered acceptable and necessary for success. It's almost worn as a badge of honor by people who -- more often than not -- aren't even that good.

tomp 8y ago
> It would be great if we would hold ourselves to higher standard of professionalism and stop apologizing for toxic behavior in software engineering. Or we could take an alternative route, and collectively grow a thicker skin and show a bit more emotional maturity, instead of seeking offence in every situation. But then that's just my opinion. But that's the point, opinions differ.
- headsoup 8y ago
  What does 'growing thicker skin' mean then? How thick? Shall I start to bully you and we'll test the thickness of skin required? I get the sense that often the people that write these kinds of comments are not on the receiving end of the behaviour.
- hfdgiutdryg 8y ago
  Or we could take an alternative route, and collectively grow a thicker skin and show a bit more emotional maturity, instead of seeking offence in every situation. No. I've been reading apologist nonsense like that for literally decades. I'm tired of being involved in an industry full of angry, frustrated manchildren who think that bitter vitriol is a signal for technical expertise. Regarding "seeking offence in every situation" I'm inclined to think that you've never read one of Linus's ridiculous rants. If you have any you still think people are seeking offense, then there is quite literally something wrong with you.

tomp 8y ago

> It would be great if we would hold ourselves to higher standard of professionalism and stop apologizing for toxic behavior in software engineering. Or we could take an alternative route, and collectively grow a thicker skin and show a bit more emotional maturity, instead of seeking offence in every situation. But then that's just my opinion. But that's the point, opinions differ.

headsoup 8y ago
What does 'growing thicker skin' mean then? How thick? Shall I start to bully you and we'll test the thickness of skin required? I get the sense that often the people that write these kinds of comments are not on the receiving end of the behaviour.
hfdgiutdryg 8y ago
Or we could take an alternative route, and collectively grow a thicker skin and show a bit more emotional maturity, instead of seeking offence in every situation. No. I've been reading apologist nonsense like that for literally decades. I'm tired of being involved in an industry full of angry, frustrated manchildren who think that bitter vitriol is a signal for technical expertise. Regarding "seeking offence in every situation" I'm inclined to think that you've never read one of Linus's ridiculous rants. If you have any you still think people are seeking offense, then there is quite literally something wrong with you.