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It's so easy to convince ourselves that eating meat is completely fine. Maybe it wouldn't be that easy if every time you wanted to eat meat you had to go yourse

It's so easy to convince ourselves that eating meat is completely fine. Maybe it wouldn't be that easy if every time you wanted to eat meat you had to go yourself to the slaughterhouse and see the horrors caused by those you pay to. Second, is proven that growing vegetables is more sustainable that growing meat.

germtone 8y ago
Typical Appeal to emotion nonsense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion
- jllaneras 8y ago
  "Appeal to emotion or argumentum ad passiones is a logical fallacy characterized by the manipulation of the recipient's emotions in order to win an argument, especially in the absence of factual evidence." That you don't want to see it doesn't mean there is not factual evidence. Do you want evidence? Start caring about looking for it. You can start here [1]. [1] H.O.P.E. documentary: https://youtu.be/pDg7tlEJD64 https://youtu.be/pDg7tlEJD64
  - germtone 8y ago
    And you repeat the same logical fallacy by linking that silly documentary HOPE and no, i have zero problem to pay a visit to a slaughterhouse each time i want to eat a juicy steak.
cannonedhamster 8y ago
Without making a claim against veganism/vegetarianism, you do realize that people have been killing their own animals and eating them for many years. I'd wager most of the people who work in factory farms still eat meat. You don't find a huge proportion of butchers going vegetarian/vegan. I don't think that evidence supports that seeing how your food is killed has any impact on most adults, although it can be traumatic for children. The meet your meat campaign was largely ineffective, whereas making vegetarianism/veganism easy to do has shown actual upticks in vegetarianism that seem to be self fulfilling cycles. People aren't generally monsters, but that doesn't mean they want to sacrifice if they don't have to. Make a product that competes with meat on price, taste, and texture and I think most people will choose the vegetarian option unless there's significant social pressure not to.
- jllaneras 8y ago
  Personally, I'm not directly against the small farmer nor the local butchery. But I'm shocked by what the big meat industry is doing. And I didn't have a clue until when I woke up recently. The bigger problem is that eating meat, even if from small butchers, helps promoting meat consumption which, in turns, helps big industry continue making big money out of animal abuse and at the expense of everybody's natural environment. Here you have what some former butchers have to say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDg7tlEJD64&t=4213 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDg7tlEJD64&t=4213
mirko22 8y ago
I slaughtered my own chicken when i was a kid cos i grew up partially in a village.

germtone 8y ago

Typical Appeal to emotion nonsense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion

jllaneras 8y ago
"Appeal to emotion or argumentum ad passiones is a logical fallacy characterized by the manipulation of the recipient's emotions in order to win an argument, especially in the absence of factual evidence." That you don't want to see it doesn't mean there is not factual evidence. Do you want evidence? Start caring about looking for it. You can start here [1]. [1] H.O.P.E. documentary: https://youtu.be/pDg7tlEJD64 https://youtu.be/pDg7tlEJD64
- germtone 8y ago
  And you repeat the same logical fallacy by linking that silly documentary HOPE and no, i have zero problem to pay a visit to a slaughterhouse each time i want to eat a juicy steak.

cannonedhamster 8y ago

Without making a claim against veganism/vegetarianism, you do realize that people have been killing their own animals and eating them for many years. I'd wager most of the people who work in factory farms still eat meat. You don't find a huge proportion of butchers going vegetarian/vegan. I don't think that evidence supports that seeing how your food is killed has any impact on most adults, although it can be traumatic for children. The meet your meat campaign was largely ineffective, whereas making vegetarianism/veganism easy to do has shown actual upticks in vegetarianism that seem to be self fulfilling cycles. People aren't generally monsters, but that doesn't mean they want to sacrifice if they don't have to. Make a product that competes with meat on price, taste, and texture and I think most people will choose the vegetarian option unless there's significant social pressure not to.

jllaneras 8y ago
Personally, I'm not directly against the small farmer nor the local butchery. But I'm shocked by what the big meat industry is doing. And I didn't have a clue until when I woke up recently. The bigger problem is that eating meat, even if from small butchers, helps promoting meat consumption which, in turns, helps big industry continue making big money out of animal abuse and at the expense of everybody's natural environment. Here you have what some former butchers have to say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDg7tlEJD64&t=4213 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDg7tlEJD64&t=4213

mirko22 8y ago

I slaughtered my own chicken when i was a kid cos i grew up partially in a village.