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The top of their page: "YunoHost is a server operating system [...]" Their source repo at https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost https://github.com/YunoHost/yun

The top of their page: "YunoHost is a server operating system [...]" Their source repo at https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost shows that it's a couple scripts bundled into a Debian installer. Their news feed even talks about which Debian version is supported: https://mastodon.social/@yunohost/100220968128029115 https://mastodon.social/@yunohost/100220968128029115 I don't trust a software provider that is either lying on their front page, or isn't competent enough to understand what their product is.

yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago
That is a server operating system. I suppose it would be more precise to call it a respin or something, but it would also be more verbose and harder for the general public to grok.
- jmillikin 8y ago
  In this case Debian provides the operating system, and YunoHost is an administrative tool similar to cPanel or Plesk.
  - reificator 8y ago
    > I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Debian, is in fact, GNU/Debian, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Debian. Debian is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
woah 8y ago
What qualifies something as a unique operating system? Debian is just a bunch of userspace apps too.
- jmillikin 8y ago
  An operating system provides the lowest stable level of a userspace API to the underlying hardware capabilities. This might be a bare kernel, or a kernel plus bundled runtime libraries. Debian is a versioned and tested copy of GNU/Linux, which is an operating system consisting of the Linux kernel and the GNU libc. Linux can be also be an OS on its own, because its kernel<->userspace API is stable. This is not true of all kernels, for example macOS does not guarantee stability below libSystem. Some people extend "operating system" up into userland tools that are bundled by the vendor or specified by a standard like POSIX, for example `ls` or `initd`. I think this is stretching the meaning a bit, because to the kernel there's no difference between `ls` and (for example) Firefox.

yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago

That is a server operating system. I suppose it would be more precise to call it a respin or something, but it would also be more verbose and harder for the general public to grok.

jmillikin 8y ago
In this case Debian provides the operating system, and YunoHost is an administrative tool similar to cPanel or Plesk.
- reificator 8y ago
  > I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Debian, is in fact, GNU/Debian, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Debian. Debian is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

woah 8y ago

What qualifies something as a unique operating system? Debian is just a bunch of userspace apps too.

jmillikin 8y ago
An operating system provides the lowest stable level of a userspace API to the underlying hardware capabilities. This might be a bare kernel, or a kernel plus bundled runtime libraries. Debian is a versioned and tested copy of GNU/Linux, which is an operating system consisting of the Linux kernel and the GNU libc. Linux can be also be an OS on its own, because its kernel<->userspace API is stable. This is not true of all kernels, for example macOS does not guarantee stability below libSystem. Some people extend "operating system" up into userland tools that are bundled by the vendor or specified by a standard like POSIX, for example `ls` or `initd`. I think this is stretching the meaning a bit, because to the kernel there's no difference between `ls` and (for example) Firefox.