> You realize our government is a hostile actor from our perspective? They are as likely to be complicit in any compromise of the system and thus unsuitable to

> You realize our government is a hostile actor from our perspective? They are as likely to be complicit in any compromise of the system and thus unsuitable to trust to design a system suitable to preserve our democracy. The mouse can't guard the cheese. They aren't designing it. It's already been designed by academics. In the paper that I linked. Please read it. > We the citizenry can probably resist and discover interference which has to be done in a fashion that is broadly distributed and plainly comprehensible by common people. No, we can't. Paper ballots are ridiculously insecure. They are just paper. Anyone, anywhere can throw them away, change them, insert thousands of fake ones, etc. I don't even see how you can argue in seriousness that paper ballots are a reasonable solution to the problem of elections. They're a joke.