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Then use the dongle ... it was free on the iPhone 7 and is $9 to buy another one if it gives out over a year after purchase.

BurritoAlPastor 8y ago
Can't use the dongle while charging. Apple doesn't make a dongle for both 3.5mm and power. They do sell one from Belkin. It's $35 and pretty bulky.
- philjohn 8y ago
  That is true, and one downside, but I would wager a lot of people don't have headphones plugged in for the entire day, and even then, you get what, 10 hours music playback on an iPhone these days?
  - veridies 8y ago
    I plug my iPhone into speakers every night to listen to music. I could connect over AirPlay, but that’s really unreliable everywhere else I’ve set it up.
    - philjohn 8y ago
      That's odd - I've never had issues with AirPlay, but now have a whole house Sonos setup which I use instead. Have you tried AirPlay 2?
      - veridies 8y ago
        I don't think so; I set up all my sound stuff before AirPlay 2 was out. I have an Airport base station with two different receivers (one Sony, one Denon), an Airport Express, and a Raspberry Pi running Runeaudio, each of which is connected to its own pair of speakers (or, in the case of one of the receivers, a surround setup). When I stream (from either iTunes on my MacBook or my iPhone) to any one of those, the music will have pretty frequent interruptions; it really shouldn't, either, because my MacBook is typically about five meters away from the Airport Express in the same room. The problem is significantly lessened when I play MP3 music instead of ALAC, and significantly worsened when I play 24-bit audio files, which suggests that bandwidth may be the problem.
        philjohn 8y ago
        Yes - sounds like it. The express doesn't do AC on 5Ghz does it, only N? Could be congestion - the makeup of your house, the wireless chip in the express going bad.
tomc1985 8y ago
Some of us don't want to. Why should we have to carry around an extra piece of hardware to support something that's worked fine since probably before you were born?
- philjohn 8y ago
  Well, I'm a Gen Xer, so yes, the audio jack has been working well since before I was born, but what I'm seeing a lot of in this thread is people with slightly niche use cases. The end result is - don't like it? Don't buy it. It's not coming back, no amount of wailing or gnashing of teeth is going to change that, if it's a massive inconvenience for your particular use case, the iPhone isn't the phone for you. The proliferation of AirPods and other wireless headphones points to most people just embracing the new normal, which in some ways is superior (I really don't miss wires at all).
  - marssaxman 8y ago
    What is this "not coming back" about? It hasn't gone away at all so far as I can see. The phone I'm typing on has a normal headphone jack. Bluetooth remains just as frustrating and unreliable as it's ever been. If the day ever comes that no phone is sold with a headphone jack anywhere, it'd be much easier to just stop bothering with music via phones than to put up with the endless hassles of a wireless headset.
    - ddingus 8y ago
      My thoughts exactly. So many batteries...
    - philjohn 8y ago
      Sorry, should have expanded to not coming back to the iPhone. I must be an outlier here, but I have zero issues with bluetooth. My iPhone syncs straight away with my car (a 4 year old UK Ford Focus), unsyncs straight away when I leave the car, and the AirPods "just work"
      - 8y ago

BurritoAlPastor 8y ago

Can't use the dongle while charging. Apple doesn't make a dongle for both 3.5mm and power. They do sell one from Belkin. It's $35 and pretty bulky.

philjohn 8y ago
That is true, and one downside, but I would wager a lot of people don't have headphones plugged in for the entire day, and even then, you get what, 10 hours music playback on an iPhone these days?
- veridies 8y ago
  I plug my iPhone into speakers every night to listen to music. I could connect over AirPlay, but that’s really unreliable everywhere else I’ve set it up.
  - philjohn 8y ago
    That's odd - I've never had issues with AirPlay, but now have a whole house Sonos setup which I use instead. Have you tried AirPlay 2?
    - veridies 8y ago
      I don't think so; I set up all my sound stuff before AirPlay 2 was out. I have an Airport base station with two different receivers (one Sony, one Denon), an Airport Express, and a Raspberry Pi running Runeaudio, each of which is connected to its own pair of speakers (or, in the case of one of the receivers, a surround setup). When I stream (from either iTunes on my MacBook or my iPhone) to any one of those, the music will have pretty frequent interruptions; it really shouldn't, either, because my MacBook is typically about five meters away from the Airport Express in the same room. The problem is significantly lessened when I play MP3 music instead of ALAC, and significantly worsened when I play 24-bit audio files, which suggests that bandwidth may be the problem.
      - philjohn 8y ago
        Yes - sounds like it. The express doesn't do AC on 5Ghz does it, only N? Could be congestion - the makeup of your house, the wireless chip in the express going bad.

tomc1985 8y ago

Some of us don't want to. Why should we have to carry around an extra piece of hardware to support something that's worked fine since probably before you were born?

philjohn 8y ago
Well, I'm a Gen Xer, so yes, the audio jack has been working well since before I was born, but what I'm seeing a lot of in this thread is people with slightly niche use cases. The end result is - don't like it? Don't buy it. It's not coming back, no amount of wailing or gnashing of teeth is going to change that, if it's a massive inconvenience for your particular use case, the iPhone isn't the phone for you. The proliferation of AirPods and other wireless headphones points to most people just embracing the new normal, which in some ways is superior (I really don't miss wires at all).
- marssaxman 8y ago
  What is this "not coming back" about? It hasn't gone away at all so far as I can see. The phone I'm typing on has a normal headphone jack. Bluetooth remains just as frustrating and unreliable as it's ever been. If the day ever comes that no phone is sold with a headphone jack anywhere, it'd be much easier to just stop bothering with music via phones than to put up with the endless hassles of a wireless headset.
  - ddingus 8y ago
    My thoughts exactly. So many batteries...
  - philjohn 8y ago
    Sorry, should have expanded to not coming back to the iPhone. I must be an outlier here, but I have zero issues with bluetooth. My iPhone syncs straight away with my car (a 4 year old UK Ford Focus), unsyncs straight away when I leave the car, and the AirPods "just work"
    - 8y ago