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> Anyone arguing for the removal of headphone jacks aren't grounded in any sort of reality tbh. The problem is that there isn’t really a good argument to keep

> Anyone arguing for the removal of headphone jacks aren't grounded in any sort of reality tbh. The problem is that there isn’t really a good argument to keep the headphone jack. It’s a redundant port because lightning/usbC and Bluetooth both handle audio. You would need a strong justification to keep it when you could use that space for other stuff in the phone.

madeofpalk 8y ago
No. What disadvantages come from the removal of a ubiquitous headphone interconnect that's been on our devices for years? iPhone's have gotten thicker since the removal of the headphone jack. Apple's made iPods much thinner than any of the iPhones, and they all had headphone jacks. There's no problem. It's not redundant if you want to charge your phone and listen to audio at the same time - I have those Bose headphones noice cancelling headphones that everyone travels with. To use them, I need to carry around an adapter which is a pain. When I fly, I have to choose whether to charge my phone or listen to audio. Look, I love my iPhone X, but I've gotten absolutely nothing out of losing the headphone jack. It's only come at costs.
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evv 8y ago
..although Apple did not use the space for anything else when they removed it from the iPhone 7. Whats the evidence? Scotty from strange parts actually managed to add a working headphone jack back to the iPhone, in the exact spot where it had been removed! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utfbE3_uAMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utfbE3_uAMA
- jsjohnst 8y ago
  Did you miss the part of the video where he had to cut out parts of the iPhone to get the space needed?
  - evv 8y ago
    He cut out one piece of plastic relating to barometric pressure, and moved the taptic engine a bit. And all of this was on the 7, so Apple surely had space for a headphone jack on the 7+, right? Maybe wired headphones are going the way of the DVD drive. But at this point, the change has felt very user-hostile. If they cared about their customers, iPhones would support USB-C and wired headphones.
    - jsjohnst 8y ago
      > so Apple surely had space for a headphone jack on the 7+, right That’s easily answerable by heading over to iFixIt. You’ll see the Plus models are near identical to the non-Plus in available space, just the Plus has a bigger battery and even more circuitry (do to the dual camera). Apple doesn’t waste any space inside their devices typically.
archagon 8y ago
Technically, even though Lightning does handle audio, the dongle contains its own DAC, so that functionality remains unused.

madeofpalk 8y ago

No. What disadvantages come from the removal of a ubiquitous headphone interconnect that's been on our devices for years? iPhone's have gotten thicker since the removal of the headphone jack. Apple's made iPods much thinner than any of the iPhones, and they all had headphone jacks. There's no problem. It's not redundant if you want to charge your phone and listen to audio at the same time - I have those Bose headphones noice cancelling headphones that everyone travels with. To use them, I need to carry around an adapter which is a pain. When I fly, I have to choose whether to charge my phone or listen to audio. Look, I love my iPhone X, but I've gotten absolutely nothing out of losing the headphone jack. It's only come at costs.

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evv 8y ago

..although Apple did not use the space for anything else when they removed it from the iPhone 7. Whats the evidence? Scotty from strange parts actually managed to add a working headphone jack back to the iPhone, in the exact spot where it had been removed! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utfbE3_uAMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utfbE3_uAMA

jsjohnst 8y ago
Did you miss the part of the video where he had to cut out parts of the iPhone to get the space needed?
- evv 8y ago
  He cut out one piece of plastic relating to barometric pressure, and moved the taptic engine a bit. And all of this was on the 7, so Apple surely had space for a headphone jack on the 7+, right? Maybe wired headphones are going the way of the DVD drive. But at this point, the change has felt very user-hostile. If they cared about their customers, iPhones would support USB-C and wired headphones.
  - jsjohnst 8y ago
    > so Apple surely had space for a headphone jack on the 7+, right That’s easily answerable by heading over to iFixIt. You’ll see the Plus models are near identical to the non-Plus in available space, just the Plus has a bigger battery and even more circuitry (do to the dual camera). Apple doesn’t waste any space inside their devices typically.

archagon 8y ago

Technically, even though Lightning does handle audio, the dongle contains its own DAC, so that functionality remains unused.