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I'm more angry at google for removing them from the pixel than for apple. I want to vote with my dollars, but at the moment the options for phones with headpho
by peterbraden 8y ago
I'm more angry at google for removing them from the pixel than for apple.
I want to vote with my dollars, but at the moment the options for phones with headphone jacks and no crapware preinstalled are exceedingly limited.
- heavenlyhash 8y ago> the options for phones with headphone jacks and no crapware preinstalled are exceedingly limited. A thousand times this. The current market for phones is absolute crap. We need more competition. (And we also need at least some of that competition to quit playing "follow the leader" when the "leader" is an imagined title, and the "leader" is clearly blind and thrashing...)
- cycrutchfield 8y agoBlind and thrashing its way to record profits and share price. Apparently plenty of people do not share your opinion about Apple phones.
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- zouhair 8y agoWell Samsung phones with LineageOS[0] are more than decent. [0]: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
- walterbell 8y agoNokia 6.1 (Android ONE) Blackberry KEY2 / KEY2 LE Both have headphone jack, dual SIM (or SIM + micro SD) and monthly updates. BB even has a keyboard!
- imandride 8y agoI have found OnePlus does the trick for me. I actually prefer if it to any of the mainstream phones.
- marcolussetti 8y agoI gather OnePlus is removing the jack in the 6T though.
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- opencl 8y agoAndroid One has at least helped expand the options for phones with no crapware and a reasonable update policy. A decent number of them still have jacks. LG G7 One Xiaomi A1/A2 Lite Moto X4 Nokia 6.1/6.1+/7+
- petra 8y agoIds update policy still an issue, after "project Treble"?
- opencl 8y agoProject Treble makes updates easier for OEMs but in no way guarantees that they will actually happen. The Moto G6 for example has Treble but Motorola has said it will only get one major update, to Pie. It came out in May with March security patches, they released the May security patch in July, and then released the July security patch in September. Android One devices will (supposedly) all receive 2 major version updates and 3 years of monthly security patches.
- petra 8y agoAh OK. But when Treble is installed, isn't installing a ROM with the new version a simple business, at least for people who can follow technical instructions ?
- opencl 8y agoAs long as the bootloader is unlocked the ROM flashing process isn't really any different from non-Treble devices, at least from the user's perspective. It should make developing the ROMs significantly easier. Obviously there are Treble devices whose bootloaders can't be unlocked and third party ROMs are still impossible on those devices. In principle a Generic System Image (GSI) can be flashed onto any Treble device and everything will just work. From what I've seen so far this is not really quite true and there will still need to be device-specific tweaks to ROMs, but the amount of device-specific code should be far lower than before and make life easier for maintainers. Hopefully the end result is more devices with functioning and well maintained ROMs available.
- kart23 8y agoYeah, they made a bunch of jokes/roasts about apple removing the headphone jack, and still having one on the pixel, and then just removed it on the pixel 2. Tech hypocrisy at its finest.
- FireBeyond 8y agoKinda like Jobs on the iPad? "If you see a stylus, someone did something wrong"?