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>alternative for YouTube If you mean the site you could use youtube-dl on desktop and NewPipe on Android. If you mean the service, I don't think there's anythi

by huntie 8y ago

>alternative for YouTube If you mean the site you could use youtube-dl on desktop and NewPipe on Android. If you mean the service, I don't think there's anything. YouTube is pervasive for non-porn videos. Want to watch a talk from that conference last month? It's only on YouTube. Want to learn how to rebuild a V8? The best information is on YouTube. The only thing I know of that isn't on YouTube is gun videos, and only because Google banned their accounts.

rabidrat 8y ago
Where should I post my video tutorials though? vimeo?
- jsjohnst 8y ago
  If you don’t care about organic discovery and are just using it for hosting, yes, Vimeo is awesome.
  - GW150914 8y ago
    Youtube has the benefit of a huge audience, but organic discovery?! Come on. Unless you’re producing clickbait, appealing to tweens, crapping our memes, or pimping rage fuel, their algos will not put you up next. It’s almost comical how bad their recommendation engine is for discovery. Listen to a pop song? Doesn’t matter if it’s the only one you ever watched, now you’re being recmmmemded Ariana Grande until you die. At least that’s sort of comprehensible, but they also make weird connection too. Watch The Jimquisition, and because “games” you get gamergate and alt right trash. Watch a video on the moon landings, and because “moon” you get conspiracy theories. The algorithmic purpose seems to be, “hey you like X, maybe you’d like an insane or hateful tangent to X? Would that keep you clicking?” Organic my ass.
    - jsjohnst 8y ago
      You may find it terrible (I don’t think it’s great, but it’s usually at least mediocre for me), but Vimeo has virtually nothing. Also, Vimeo doesn’t seem to rank well in search engines either. So yes, even if YouTube was universally terrible as you claim for organic discovery (it isn’t), it’s still better than basically nothing.
      - GW150914 8y ago
        I think “better than nothing” is the perfect way to describe it. Almost anything else would be better, but there is effectively nothing else. I would point out that when talking about how Youtube does well on search engines though, it can’t hurt that it has that little connection to Google, the premier search engine. I’m glad that you’ve had better luck with using it for discovery though, any tips on how how to get that to work?
        jsjohnst 8y ago
        > it can’t hurt that it has that little connection to Google Except YouTube ranks very well in DDG, Bing, and Yahoo too. > any tips on how how to get that to work? 1) I don’t sign into YouTube unless I am uploading a video and I sign out when done. 2) I almost always search for something of a technical nature. 3) If I search for something “main stream popular” on YouTube, I usually do it in an incognito window.

by huntie 8y ago

rabidrat 8y ago

Where should I post my video tutorials though? vimeo?

jsjohnst 8y ago
If you don’t care about organic discovery and are just using it for hosting, yes, Vimeo is awesome.
- GW150914 8y ago
  Youtube has the benefit of a huge audience, but organic discovery?! Come on. Unless you’re producing clickbait, appealing to tweens, crapping our memes, or pimping rage fuel, their algos will not put you up next. It’s almost comical how bad their recommendation engine is for discovery. Listen to a pop song? Doesn’t matter if it’s the only one you ever watched, now you’re being recmmmemded Ariana Grande until you die. At least that’s sort of comprehensible, but they also make weird connection too. Watch The Jimquisition, and because “games” you get gamergate and alt right trash. Watch a video on the moon landings, and because “moon” you get conspiracy theories. The algorithmic purpose seems to be, “hey you like X, maybe you’d like an insane or hateful tangent to X? Would that keep you clicking?” Organic my ass.
  - jsjohnst 8y ago
    You may find it terrible (I don’t think it’s great, but it’s usually at least mediocre for me), but Vimeo has virtually nothing. Also, Vimeo doesn’t seem to rank well in search engines either. So yes, even if YouTube was universally terrible as you claim for organic discovery (it isn’t), it’s still better than basically nothing.
    - GW150914 8y ago
      I think “better than nothing” is the perfect way to describe it. Almost anything else would be better, but there is effectively nothing else. I would point out that when talking about how Youtube does well on search engines though, it can’t hurt that it has that little connection to Google, the premier search engine. I’m glad that you’ve had better luck with using it for discovery though, any tips on how how to get that to work?
      - jsjohnst 8y ago
        > it can’t hurt that it has that little connection to Google Except YouTube ranks very well in DDG, Bing, and Yahoo too. > any tips on how how to get that to work? 1) I don’t sign into YouTube unless I am uploading a video and I sign out when done. 2) I almost always search for something of a technical nature. 3) If I search for something “main stream popular” on YouTube, I usually do it in an incognito window.