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> From my perspective it’s one of the very few general purpose languages (along with erlang) Maybe I'm missing something, but since when Erlang is a general pu

by zinid 8y ago

> From my perspective it’s one of the very few general purpose languages (along with erlang) Maybe I'm missing something, but since when Erlang is a general purpose language? Erlang was designed for a quite narrow niche and feels very well there, but Go... well, honestly, I don't understand what Go was designed for.

pacala 8y ago
Go was designed for data munging via gRPC.
- village-idiot 8y ago
  One of the clear design needs for go was “you have a crap ton of code you need to write, and you need to aggressively parallelize the work over a bunch of mixed skill devs, without the worst ones fucking it up, and without the best going off the reservation and making something that can’t be understood later.” Personally that sounds like my own hell, but that’s the world Google lives in.
  - erik_seaberg 8y ago
    Despite Pike's appalling contempt in https://talks.golang.org/2012/splash.article https://talks.golang.org/2012/splash.article I'm not convinced this is a problem Google actually has. They're faced with perverse incentives but they're far from stupid.
    - village-idiot 8y ago
      Pike’s attitude has been a large factor in me not bothering with Go.
  - andresp 8y ago
    Maybe with the exception of the old JS callback hell I have never seen any other language deteriorate code into spaghetti projects more quickly than Go with channel and duck typing abuses. I think if it does a very poor at keeping "the worst ones" from "fucking it up".
village-idiot 8y ago
I’m using general purpose in a very soft and squishy way. I generally mean languages that can comfortably do a few different things and not the hyper specialized cases like Matlab.
codeadict 8y ago
I don't think is fair to compare Go to Erlang. Erlang is really designed to do 4 things: concurrency, low latency, fault tolerance and distributed systems and it shines there. Go is indeed a general purpose language to me.

by zinid 8y ago

pacala 8y ago

Go was designed for data munging via gRPC.

village-idiot 8y ago
One of the clear design needs for go was “you have a crap ton of code you need to write, and you need to aggressively parallelize the work over a bunch of mixed skill devs, without the worst ones fucking it up, and without the best going off the reservation and making something that can’t be understood later.” Personally that sounds like my own hell, but that’s the world Google lives in.
- erik_seaberg 8y ago
  Despite Pike's appalling contempt in https://talks.golang.org/2012/splash.article https://talks.golang.org/2012/splash.article I'm not convinced this is a problem Google actually has. They're faced with perverse incentives but they're far from stupid.
  - village-idiot 8y ago
    Pike’s attitude has been a large factor in me not bothering with Go.
- andresp 8y ago
  Maybe with the exception of the old JS callback hell I have never seen any other language deteriorate code into spaghetti projects more quickly than Go with channel and duck typing abuses. I think if it does a very poor at keeping "the worst ones" from "fucking it up".

village-idiot 8y ago

I’m using general purpose in a very soft and squishy way. I generally mean languages that can comfortably do a few different things and not the hyper specialized cases like Matlab.

codeadict 8y ago

I don't think is fair to compare Go to Erlang. Erlang is really designed to do 4 things: concurrency, low latency, fault tolerance and distributed systems and it shines there. Go is indeed a general purpose language to me.