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>That's because those things are increasingly more creatively measured to paint a nice picture. They are measured the same way they always have been >For exam
by friedman23 8y ago
>That's because those things are increasingly more creatively measured to paint a nice picture.
They are measured the same way they always have been
>For example today any crap job regardless of quality/wages/precariousness etc is measured as "unemployment", whereas in the past you could have the same number of jobs but they would be much more solid (the "company man" and so on. Heck, a GM factory worker in the 50s could buy a house and raise 2 kids earning the only income in his family).
Oh this talking point again. Never mind the two world wars that made it all possible
>People who given up looking for work, because they can't find any, are also not counted, while still unemployed and struggling to make ends meet.
You are aware that there are multiple unemployment statistics that are tracked and that discouraged workers are included in some of them? Nobody is purposefully ignoring discouraged workers they are just not relevant to the market because they aren't participating in it.
>For one, because tax havens (where that money go instead of local communities, e.g. Apple's Ireland's cash stock) aren't "people".
What do you think happens to money in those tax havens? Do you think they convert it all into gold coins and lock it into a scrooge mcduck style vault? It's reinvested, they purchase treasuries with it, they do research and development with it. Governments then use that money to build roads and pay employees. Those employees then go and eat out and buy cars.
- coldtea 8y ago>They are measured the same way they always have been As I explained in the very next paragraph the creativity is in determining which people are in the workforce and which are not. Measuring the "same way they always have been" when work today is unlike it has "always has been" is like measuring inflation by the cost of commonly bought 1940s items. >Oh this talking point again. Never mind the two world wars that made it all possible A fact doesn't change based on what made it possible. >You are aware that there are multiple unemployment statistics that are tracked and that discouraged workers are included in some of them? Nobody is purposefully ignoring discouraged workers they are just not relevant to the market because they aren't participating in it. You're aware that the officially circulating numbers (U3 et all) don't show the impact of the problem by a very large margin? And that those people who "are just not relevant to the market" still need to put food on the table, pay rents, and pay medical bills... >What do you think happens to money in those tax havens? It gets further removed from the communities that fostered the companies that made it and their control, and on to the company's (or private owner's) discretion.