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'they' here refers to the mods. Should have clarified, I thought it was clear from the context.

by comesee 8y ago

pvg 8y ago
The mods especially don't 'arbitrarily censor' comments.
- comesee 8y ago
  Okay, I think they do. They've censored my comments many times.
  - pvg 8y ago
    They have? Which ones?
  - yesenadam 8y ago
    You said 'arbitrarily censored'. Of course you don't think it was for a good reason. My comments are never downvoted for any good reason. :-) In my limited experience, people develop that evil-conspiracy tone you have by assuming it's what they said that wasn't wanted here, not how they said it, which is usually the problem. I'd like to see examples of that. Well, like is too strong. But provide evidence for your claim please, if you can. P.s. So why on earth are you still here on a forum where your comments have been censored many times?!
    - comesee 8y ago
      I'm respectful and polite in this forum. I've been blocked simply for saying things with which some largish group of down voters don't agree. I am trying to leave this site but boredom always pulls me back :) That and I really do like to browse the posts and comment, engage with, and challenge people. Here's one such arbitrarily blocked comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17517643 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17517643 You can't read it but I screenshotted it for you. Dang calls me a troll simply for asking him to clarify and tells me to leave the site. "Legalistic Gambit of the troll," as if I'm trying to win some game. All I want is to be treated fairly on this site. It was very hurtful. https://ibb.co/hoSMHK https://ibb.co/hoSMHK
      - DoreenMichele 8y ago
        That comment was flagged to death. Members can flag. Blaming the mods suggests that, at best, you don't actually understand how the forum works.
        comesee 8y ago
        Admittedly I'm not an expert on the censorship rules of the site but I was under the impression that the mods had the ability to unflag comments. It was never made clear to me why that comment was flagged or why it was considered "flamebait" and that's why I consider HN's censorship rules arbitrary. There was nothing rude or personally antagonistic or unscientific about that post.
        DoreenMichele 8y ago
        Insisting over and over that you are not being offensive while people keep repeating their disagreement with the idea by downvoting and/or flagging your comments suggests your social skills could use some polish. You are entitled to your opinions, but you do not get to unilaterally determine what others do or do not find offensive. That's not how the universe works.
        comesee 8y ago
        Hey, no need to insult my social skills. I get that maybe the content of my post offends some people but it is scientific fact. There's a difference between being intentionally rude / antagonistic, and civilly presenting data that some people find offensive. Just because people find the data offensive, that shouldn't be cause to censor the data on a forum for civil discussion, should it?
        DoreenMichele 8y ago
        The data isn't being censored. Flamebait actively undermines civility and that's all the mods were trying to address. There are ways to make similar points without it being flamebait. If you really feel it is important to discuss such things, you could work on improving your framing and diplomacy instead of continuing to complain about the incident two months later in an unrelated discussion. There's also no intent to insult your social skills. But the reality is there are only two reasonable ways to interpret your behavior here: 1. Either you legitimately are failing to understand. (There can be myriad reasons for that. Disability is not the only possible reason.) 2. You actually are a troll. The first is the more charitable interpretation and the one I am most prone to because I raised two special needs sons. So I default to assuming someone honestly doesn't understand for some reason because I've dealt with that a lot in life. It sometimes gets me into social hot water when I am sincerely trying to be helpful. Like now.

'they' here refers to the mods. Should have clarified, I thought it was clear from the context.

pvg 8y ago

The mods especially don't 'arbitrarily censor' comments.

comesee 8y ago
Okay, I think they do. They've censored my comments many times.
- pvg 8y ago
  They have? Which ones?
- yesenadam 8y ago
  You said 'arbitrarily censored'. Of course you don't think it was for a good reason. My comments are never downvoted for any good reason. :-) In my limited experience, people develop that evil-conspiracy tone you have by assuming it's what they said that wasn't wanted here, not how they said it, which is usually the problem. I'd like to see examples of that. Well, like is too strong. But provide evidence for your claim please, if you can. P.s. So why on earth are you still here on a forum where your comments have been censored many times?!
  - comesee 8y ago
    I'm respectful and polite in this forum. I've been blocked simply for saying things with which some largish group of down voters don't agree. I am trying to leave this site but boredom always pulls me back :) That and I really do like to browse the posts and comment, engage with, and challenge people. Here's one such arbitrarily blocked comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17517643 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17517643 You can't read it but I screenshotted it for you. Dang calls me a troll simply for asking him to clarify and tells me to leave the site. "Legalistic Gambit of the troll," as if I'm trying to win some game. All I want is to be treated fairly on this site. It was very hurtful. https://ibb.co/hoSMHK https://ibb.co/hoSMHK
    - DoreenMichele 8y ago
      That comment was flagged to death. Members can flag. Blaming the mods suggests that, at best, you don't actually understand how the forum works.
      - comesee 8y ago
        Admittedly I'm not an expert on the censorship rules of the site but I was under the impression that the mods had the ability to unflag comments. It was never made clear to me why that comment was flagged or why it was considered "flamebait" and that's why I consider HN's censorship rules arbitrary. There was nothing rude or personally antagonistic or unscientific about that post.
        DoreenMichele 8y ago
        Insisting over and over that you are not being offensive while people keep repeating their disagreement with the idea by downvoting and/or flagging your comments suggests your social skills could use some polish. You are entitled to your opinions, but you do not get to unilaterally determine what others do or do not find offensive. That's not how the universe works.
        comesee 8y ago
        Hey, no need to insult my social skills. I get that maybe the content of my post offends some people but it is scientific fact. There's a difference between being intentionally rude / antagonistic, and civilly presenting data that some people find offensive. Just because people find the data offensive, that shouldn't be cause to censor the data on a forum for civil discussion, should it?
        DoreenMichele 8y ago
        The data isn't being censored. Flamebait actively undermines civility and that's all the mods were trying to address. There are ways to make similar points without it being flamebait. If you really feel it is important to discuss such things, you could work on improving your framing and diplomacy instead of continuing to complain about the incident two months later in an unrelated discussion. There's also no intent to insult your social skills. But the reality is there are only two reasonable ways to interpret your behavior here: 1. Either you legitimately are failing to understand. (There can be myriad reasons for that. Disability is not the only possible reason.) 2. You actually are a troll. The first is the more charitable interpretation and the one I am most prone to because I raised two special needs sons. So I default to assuming someone honestly doesn't understand for some reason because I've dealt with that a lot in life. It sometimes gets me into social hot water when I am sincerely trying to be helpful. Like now.