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I’ve had iPhone X since day one, and an iPhone user since version 3. I can honestly tell you that the notch doesn’t bother me. I don’t even notice it at all, ev

I’ve had iPhone X since day one, and an iPhone user since version 3. I can honestly tell you that the notch doesn’t bother me. I don’t even notice it at all, even on landscape mode. Maybe to designers the idea of it is ugly, but in practice I’ve never once in a year thought “that notch is a bad idea and it made my experience worse”. I just forget about it. And for the record I’m not a fanboy. I use Windows at home and boot camp my work laptop to windows as well because I hate MacOS. The iPhone is the only apple product I’ve owned and am open to switching to android if they ever gave me a compelling reason to switch, which they haven’t yet.

batteryhorse 8y ago
I also bought the iPhone X on day one, but I had to get rid of it, I really hated the notch. Also didn't like the aspect ratio of the display, it's getting way too vertical. For me, it's like living in a room where one of the walls has a weird inset, which makes it more difficult to arrange the furniture. Or like having a picture frame on the wall that is slightly crooked no matter how many times you try to fix it. Or maybe it's like having a mole or birthmark, and calling it a beauty mark. Sure you can live with it and just ignore it, but that wouldn't be my first choice. However if you are willing to boot camp into Windows, you are probably less likely to care about a notch.
- noir_lord 8y ago
  I don't get 18:9 on a phone at all, I purposely bought 16:9 as one of my criteria for a new phone.
- nojvek 8y ago
  I firmly believe the notch wouldn’t have made it if Steve Jobs was still the CEO. It kinda goes against some of his ocd-ness I refuse to buy a botched notched phone.
Krasnol 8y ago
Could you elaborate on why you don't see compelling reasons to switch to Android? Seen from the other side and having to use an IPhone for work, I don't see compelling reasons to spend so much money for an Iphone. Especially considering that not even the basic features like collecting mails from an exchange server doesn't work properly...
- quantummkv 8y ago
  Mostly because any android phone worth buying (apart for from Nokia or Samsung) is basically an iPhone X clone, notch and all, without the ecosystem and software support provided by Apple to ensure that the notch works. Any sort of software support for the notch landed in Android 9. How many phones with the notch have that version? Absolutely zero. And unlike iPhone, no Android phone has any justifiable reason for the notch.
  - Krasnol 8y ago
    > any android phone worth buying Seriously...? > without the ecosystem and software support provided by Apple to ensure that the notch works Well don't know about the "notch" but the immense ecosystem around Android is so far beyond what Apple has that I wouldn't even know where to start. The stupidity of some manufactures to copy that design failure is a different topic but it's defiantly nothing to be proud of. Neither on the Android nor on the Apple side. Mine doesn't have one and I wouldn't buy one because it's just ridiculous...
    - quantummkv 8y ago
      > Seriously...? Yeah. Apart from nokia 8/7 and samsung note9 and s9, every current and upcoming phone (oneplus, pixel, huawei, xaomi, etc.) have the notch. > Mine doesn't have one and I wouldn't buy one because it's just ridiculous Manufacturers won't give you an option in the future and the android software support will be flaky at best. Atleast Apple tries to ensure that you have the best possible experience with its design choices. No one in the android ecosystem gives a damn about your experience.
      - Krasnol 8y ago
        > Yeah. Apart from nokia 8/7 and samsung note9 and s9, every current and upcoming phone (oneplus, pixel, huawei, xaomi, etc.) have the notch. I was questioning the quoted statement. > Manufacturers won't give you an option in the future I'm not sure if you really believe that or if you have no idea how big the Android market is. Adding to your exemptions list there is also LG (just one has it), Pixel of course and there is just one Motorola who has it. And those are the brands that came into my mind. I don't even go into the endless others out there on this planet. It looks like a list with models who have it would have been shorter. I like how you dropped everything else.
kuwze 8y ago
Everyone complains about the notch, but what about the lack of a button? That is what made me choose an 8.
- misframer 8y ago
  I don't miss the button. What didn't you like about the missing button?
  - mcraiha 8y ago
    It is much easier to just press home button and current content will vanish from the screen. And physical buttons are way better when you are walking/running.
    - wycy 8y ago
      You can just swipe up from anywhere on the bottom of the screen, there's no on-screen target you need to hit, so it's just as easy to do it while walking/running/without looking. I do it while running all the time.
- orev 8y ago
  You get over the lack of a button pretty quickly. The swipe up gesture works fine.
- plufz 8y ago
  I actually think it is a lot better without the button. It feels light and natural for me. I would not go back to button.
- p49k 8y ago
  It's a significant amount of extra screen space to gain in exchange for not having it. I think the tradeoff is more than worth it.
- wycy 8y ago
  Lack of a home button is a selling point for me. FaceID feels like somewhat of a compromise because there're many ways in which it's inferior to TouchID, but the swipe gesture replacing the home button isn't a compromise at all--it's better. Swiping to dismiss feels faster and natural, and the swipe across the bottom to switch between apps feels way faster than double pressing the home button to summon the multitasker.
rm999 8y ago
I'm sure many have seen this, but this was clarifying for me: https://i.imgur.com/1zUUPGh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/1zUUPGh.jpg Yes, the notch introduced unfortunate design headaches, but it maximizes utility given current technology. I think if you took those pixels away, most existing iphone X users would object.

batteryhorse 8y ago

I also bought the iPhone X on day one, but I had to get rid of it, I really hated the notch. Also didn't like the aspect ratio of the display, it's getting way too vertical. For me, it's like living in a room where one of the walls has a weird inset, which makes it more difficult to arrange the furniture. Or like having a picture frame on the wall that is slightly crooked no matter how many times you try to fix it. Or maybe it's like having a mole or birthmark, and calling it a beauty mark. Sure you can live with it and just ignore it, but that wouldn't be my first choice. However if you are willing to boot camp into Windows, you are probably less likely to care about a notch.

noir_lord 8y ago
I don't get 18:9 on a phone at all, I purposely bought 16:9 as one of my criteria for a new phone.
nojvek 8y ago
I firmly believe the notch wouldn’t have made it if Steve Jobs was still the CEO. It kinda goes against some of his ocd-ness I refuse to buy a botched notched phone.

Krasnol 8y ago

Could you elaborate on why you don't see compelling reasons to switch to Android? Seen from the other side and having to use an IPhone for work, I don't see compelling reasons to spend so much money for an Iphone. Especially considering that not even the basic features like collecting mails from an exchange server doesn't work properly...

quantummkv 8y ago
Mostly because any android phone worth buying (apart for from Nokia or Samsung) is basically an iPhone X clone, notch and all, without the ecosystem and software support provided by Apple to ensure that the notch works. Any sort of software support for the notch landed in Android 9. How many phones with the notch have that version? Absolutely zero. And unlike iPhone, no Android phone has any justifiable reason for the notch.
- Krasnol 8y ago
  > any android phone worth buying Seriously...? > without the ecosystem and software support provided by Apple to ensure that the notch works Well don't know about the "notch" but the immense ecosystem around Android is so far beyond what Apple has that I wouldn't even know where to start. The stupidity of some manufactures to copy that design failure is a different topic but it's defiantly nothing to be proud of. Neither on the Android nor on the Apple side. Mine doesn't have one and I wouldn't buy one because it's just ridiculous...
  - quantummkv 8y ago
    > Seriously...? Yeah. Apart from nokia 8/7 and samsung note9 and s9, every current and upcoming phone (oneplus, pixel, huawei, xaomi, etc.) have the notch. > Mine doesn't have one and I wouldn't buy one because it's just ridiculous Manufacturers won't give you an option in the future and the android software support will be flaky at best. Atleast Apple tries to ensure that you have the best possible experience with its design choices. No one in the android ecosystem gives a damn about your experience.
    - Krasnol 8y ago
      > Yeah. Apart from nokia 8/7 and samsung note9 and s9, every current and upcoming phone (oneplus, pixel, huawei, xaomi, etc.) have the notch. I was questioning the quoted statement. > Manufacturers won't give you an option in the future I'm not sure if you really believe that or if you have no idea how big the Android market is. Adding to your exemptions list there is also LG (just one has it), Pixel of course and there is just one Motorola who has it. And those are the brands that came into my mind. I don't even go into the endless others out there on this planet. It looks like a list with models who have it would have been shorter. I like how you dropped everything else.

kuwze 8y ago

Everyone complains about the notch, but what about the lack of a button? That is what made me choose an 8.

misframer 8y ago
I don't miss the button. What didn't you like about the missing button?
- mcraiha 8y ago
  It is much easier to just press home button and current content will vanish from the screen. And physical buttons are way better when you are walking/running.
  - wycy 8y ago
    You can just swipe up from anywhere on the bottom of the screen, there's no on-screen target you need to hit, so it's just as easy to do it while walking/running/without looking. I do it while running all the time.
orev 8y ago
You get over the lack of a button pretty quickly. The swipe up gesture works fine.
plufz 8y ago
I actually think it is a lot better without the button. It feels light and natural for me. I would not go back to button.
p49k 8y ago
It's a significant amount of extra screen space to gain in exchange for not having it. I think the tradeoff is more than worth it.
wycy 8y ago
Lack of a home button is a selling point for me. FaceID feels like somewhat of a compromise because there're many ways in which it's inferior to TouchID, but the swipe gesture replacing the home button isn't a compromise at all--it's better. Swiping to dismiss feels faster and natural, and the swipe across the bottom to switch between apps feels way faster than double pressing the home button to summon the multitasker.

rm999 8y ago

I'm sure many have seen this, but this was clarifying for me: https://i.imgur.com/1zUUPGh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/1zUUPGh.jpg Yes, the notch introduced unfortunate design headaches, but it maximizes utility given current technology. I think if you took those pixels away, most existing iphone X users would object.