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Don't waste your time. The notch will be gone at some point and Apple will be claming to be the first to do so.

zuttton 8y ago
This is true. Really thinking Apple did it just to see who would copy them and to say they were first. Notch is a super poor design choice UI wise.
- newscracker 8y ago
  Apple wasn't the first to create the notch. It was Sharp, followed by Essential, followed by Apple. [1] [1]: https://www.phonearena.com/news/First-notch-phone-Sharp-not-Essential_id105608 https://www.phonearena.com/news/First-notch-phone-Sharp-not-...
jmisavage 8y ago
True at some point that will happen, but not in the foreseeable future. Web developers also need to take in account that there are large rounded corners cut out on the screen which will most likely remain even when the notch finally goes away. The WebKit folks had a great blog post on how to do all of this and use the new env variable in CSS. It was proprietary back then, but I believe it's on the standards track now Android is copying the notch. https://webkit.org/blog/7929/designing-websites-for-iphone-x/ https://webkit.org/blog/7929/designing-websites-for-iphone-x...
bdcravens 8y ago
What features has Apple removed shortly after introducing them? Historically Apple has stuck with its changes, even when they are accompanied by negative feedback.
- Jaruzel 8y ago
  3D touch has gone. It's not on some of the newer models. Didn't last very long at all.
  - bdcravens 8y ago
    It's not on one new model (the iPhone XR). The iPhone XS and XS Max still have it. However, they were already selling a phone without it - the iPhone SE; the iPhone XR is designed to be the new "cheap" option. No net change in the number of new iPhone options without it. > Didn't last very long at all. They introduced it with iPhone 6S, so even if it's not on a single model next year (which is doubtful), it would have been a 4+ year feature
  - jsjohnst 8y ago
    The only newer model is the low end iPhone XR, and I’m fairly certain that was purely from a cost/margin perspective.
    - bdcravens 8y ago
      Plus it essentially replaced the previous low cost option, the SE, which also didn't have the feature.
tobyhinloopen 8y ago
The concept of a “safe area” is here to stay. It does not only apply to the notch, but also applies to rendering underneath the iOS “home button” or the translucent toolbar.

This is true. Really thinking Apple did it just to see who would copy them and to say they were first. Notch is a super poor design choice UI wise.

newscracker 8y ago
Apple wasn't the first to create the notch. It was Sharp, followed by Essential, followed by Apple. [1] [1]: https://www.phonearena.com/news/First-notch-phone-Sharp-not-Essential_id105608 https://www.phonearena.com/news/First-notch-phone-Sharp-not-...

jmisavage 8y ago

True at some point that will happen, but not in the foreseeable future. Web developers also need to take in account that there are large rounded corners cut out on the screen which will most likely remain even when the notch finally goes away. The WebKit folks had a great blog post on how to do all of this and use the new env variable in CSS. It was proprietary back then, but I believe it's on the standards track now Android is copying the notch. https://webkit.org/blog/7929/designing-websites-for-iphone-x/ https://webkit.org/blog/7929/designing-websites-for-iphone-x...

bdcravens 8y ago

What features has Apple removed shortly after introducing them? Historically Apple has stuck with its changes, even when they are accompanied by negative feedback.

Jaruzel 8y ago
3D touch has gone. It's not on some of the newer models. Didn't last very long at all.
- bdcravens 8y ago
  It's not on one new model (the iPhone XR). The iPhone XS and XS Max still have it. However, they were already selling a phone without it - the iPhone SE; the iPhone XR is designed to be the new "cheap" option. No net change in the number of new iPhone options without it. > Didn't last very long at all. They introduced it with iPhone 6S, so even if it's not on a single model next year (which is doubtful), it would have been a 4+ year feature
- jsjohnst 8y ago
  The only newer model is the low end iPhone XR, and I’m fairly certain that was purely from a cost/margin perspective.
  - bdcravens 8y ago
    Plus it essentially replaced the previous low cost option, the SE, which also didn't have the feature.

tobyhinloopen 8y ago

The concept of a “safe area” is here to stay. It does not only apply to the notch, but also applies to rendering underneath the iOS “home button” or the translucent toolbar.