> No. People are human at all times. They are not machines The people I interact with certainly can be. People are very willing to cede their "personhood", to

> No. People are human at all times. They are not machines The people I interact with certainly can be. People are very willing to cede their "personhood", to act according to their "role". This is an idea I've stolen from philosophers, but it seems to be how the world works (in my experience); for better, or worse. > You've taken a very closed minded approach to business operations, and somehow elevated it to a responsibility to act unethically. No, this isn't my argument at all. The idea was never that the decision was "purely" ethical, just ethical from a perspective that is often taken in the business world. I'm trying to criticize this perspective. Also, I don't think businesses, especially publicly traded ones, have the ability to act ethically. The incentives and philosophy are too perverse, which is why we need regulation. > Is management acting in the company's best interest by paying minimum wage and ignoring these risks? No one with any sort of management training would agree with you that there is a duty to pay minimum wage and risk incurring consequences that may out weigh the costs of increased wages. I agree wholeheartedly, and made the same point in this very thread. I don't think it's "smart management" to have employees that want to leave at the first opportunity, and hate the companies guts. Seems shortsighted and stupid to me. I was just commenting on a perspective that is very narrow, and in my opinion dangerous, but extremely common. Just a bit of frivolous, socioeconomic commentary.