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I think the Republican Party is really more like 3 disparate parties under one banner. The country would be a lot better off if they formally split. You should

I think the Republican Party is really more like 3 disparate parties under one banner. The country would be a lot better off if they formally split. You should be able to be proud of the people you vote for, and not have to add clarifications like "I support my Republican colleagues, except the Russian agents, corrupt plutocrats, child abusers, and serial rapists". Get rid of that junk and it'll be a lot easier to be proud of what you believe.

amaccuish 8y ago
Exactly this, I made a similar point above. I think the line is blurred specifically here because there's an "official" party, which describes itself/is regarded essentially as "the conservative party/for conservatives".
dragonwriter 8y ago
> I think the Republican Party is really more like 3 disparate parties under one banner. Or more. Same with the Democrats. There's a solid reason this will always be true of whatever the two major US parties are (and it's the same reason there will be exactly two major US parties, though which two may change) barring major reforms to the basic structure of elections. > The country would be a lot better off if they formally split. Well, it might be better if the US had an electoral system that supported stable multiparty democracy, but it doesn't. If the Republican Party fragmented into three separate parties, then some existing minor parties and non-party factions (possibly including one or more of the ex-Republican party, and possibly including one or more breakaway parts of the Democratic Party which is a similar coalition) would form a new major coalition party in its place. Pure parties are minor parties while major parties are coalitions of disparate factions in the US for structural reasons, not as some kind of odd statistical fluke.
bassman9000 8y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY3ZVmkAKyM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY3ZVmkAKyM There's shit for everyone. That's not the point.

amaccuish 8y ago

Exactly this, I made a similar point above. I think the line is blurred specifically here because there's an "official" party, which describes itself/is regarded essentially as "the conservative party/for conservatives".

dragonwriter 8y ago

> I think the Republican Party is really more like 3 disparate parties under one banner. Or more. Same with the Democrats. There's a solid reason this will always be true of whatever the two major US parties are (and it's the same reason there will be exactly two major US parties, though which two may change) barring major reforms to the basic structure of elections. > The country would be a lot better off if they formally split. Well, it might be better if the US had an electoral system that supported stable multiparty democracy, but it doesn't. If the Republican Party fragmented into three separate parties, then some existing minor parties and non-party factions (possibly including one or more of the ex-Republican party, and possibly including one or more breakaway parts of the Democratic Party which is a similar coalition) would form a new major coalition party in its place. Pure parties are minor parties while major parties are coalitions of disparate factions in the US for structural reasons, not as some kind of odd statistical fluke.

bassman9000 8y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY3ZVmkAKyM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY3ZVmkAKyM There's shit for everyone. That's not the point.