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Maybe just make it one row wider or taller so that it can have an escape and a `~ key simultaneously? The need to make these things so small that compromises

Maybe just make it one row wider or taller so that it can have an escape and a `~ key simultaneously? The need to make these things so small that compromises like having to choose between esc and `~ is very strange to me. This is not a portable device. I have had a Mistel MD650L for the last 6 weeks, and I didn't notice that it had the same issue as this one -- you need to press a mod key to switch between esc and `~. I use both enough that this is a major PITA. I remapped the "del" key to `~ for a while, but then I started to have to hunt around for that key on my laptop.

mondalaci 8y ago
You can remap the ~ key on the UHK to be Esc by default and ~ via the Mod layer if you want to. We plan to design further UHKs of different form factors. I don't get however why you don't consider the current model compact.
- graedus 8y ago
  > I don't get however why you don't consider the current model compact. Are you referring to this? > This is not a portable device. The way I read it, drewg123 wasn't saying that this particular keyboard is not compact compared to other keyboards. Rather, a keyboard in general doesn't need to be particularly portable, so why attempt to shave an extra inch off by eliminating useful keys?
  - drewg123 8y ago
    Yes, that's exactly what I'm trying to say. I didn't notice the tradeoff on the kbd that I have now before I bought it. So every time I go to use tilde, I need to stop, think, and hit the mode key. I'd much rather have another row with fn/esc above the numbers, just like on regular keyboards. I was actually hoping this keyboard had that. I can't seem to find a "mild" ergo split mechanical keyboard with enough keys; I'd buy one if I could find one..
  - mondalaci 8y ago
    Gotcha, thanks for clarifying! Well, 60% keyboards are not for everyone.
  - PurpleRamen 8y ago
    There is the matter of desk estate, because of which some people prefer more compact keyboards, to have more space available. Some also prefer this 60% keyboards because it force them to avoid "harmful" keys and let them focus on their touch typing-usage. And other just take it it as a matter of aestetic. Though, this keyboard isn't really looking good, so I say not many will choose it beacuse of look.

mondalaci 8y ago

You can remap the ~ key on the UHK to be Esc by default and ~ via the Mod layer if you want to. We plan to design further UHKs of different form factors. I don't get however why you don't consider the current model compact.

graedus 8y ago
> I don't get however why you don't consider the current model compact. Are you referring to this? > This is not a portable device. The way I read it, drewg123 wasn't saying that this particular keyboard is not compact compared to other keyboards. Rather, a keyboard in general doesn't need to be particularly portable, so why attempt to shave an extra inch off by eliminating useful keys?
- drewg123 8y ago
  Yes, that's exactly what I'm trying to say. I didn't notice the tradeoff on the kbd that I have now before I bought it. So every time I go to use tilde, I need to stop, think, and hit the mode key. I'd much rather have another row with fn/esc above the numbers, just like on regular keyboards. I was actually hoping this keyboard had that. I can't seem to find a "mild" ergo split mechanical keyboard with enough keys; I'd buy one if I could find one..
- mondalaci 8y ago
  Gotcha, thanks for clarifying! Well, 60% keyboards are not for everyone.
- PurpleRamen 8y ago
  There is the matter of desk estate, because of which some people prefer more compact keyboards, to have more space available. Some also prefer this 60% keyboards because it force them to avoid "harmful" keys and let them focus on their touch typing-usage. And other just take it it as a matter of aestetic. Though, this keyboard isn't really looking good, so I say not many will choose it beacuse of look.