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I never understood why I am I crammed into the same room with social media/sales/business planner/project management and whatnot people when they don't do any p

I never understood why I am I crammed into the same room with social media/sales/business planner/project management and whatnot people when they don't do any productive work (or any work for that matter) instead they just keep yelling nonsense the whole day over my head. Sometimes they are so loud that even when I turn up the volume in my earphones painfully loud, I can still hear them. And why would I have to listen to any music to begin with just to get my work done??? I am so pissed each and every day when I clock out and through no fault of my own I can't finish my work. Infuriating situation. Seriously.

dkersten 8y ago
I’ve gotten to the point where I accept it as my bosses loss that I’m unable to work as effectively as I otherwise could, if I’m in a situation like that and can’t get out and I’m clear with them about it. If they give me flak for being unproductive in an unproductive environment then I leave, as I count that as a hostile environment (in the same vein as not being given the tools or information I need to do my work). Luckily for me, I’ve had reasonable bosses in my last few jobs and have had the option to work from home (although time in the office has still been in an open plan space).
- growtofill 8y ago
  With all the above, would you share how long on the average do you stay at one job?
  - lozenge 8y ago
    You should be able to filter for this before you take a job. Just remember that it comes at a compromise - you will miss out on opportunities that are "better, but..."
    - dasmoth 8y ago
      You should, yes, but it seems as though open plan offices and the trappings are close to 100% in some areas. Remote jobs now seem to be the main alternative, but not everyone loves that setup (especially those who want to keep the work/home distinction super-clear).
  - dkersten 8y ago
    My last two jobs were two years and one year. I only left the first because I was offered a team lead position working in technologies that I care enough about to run the local meet ups for, and the other I left only because the work I ended up doing was very different from what I was hired to do (ie I ended up doing rather little of the tech I was hired for), if I’d went into it knowing that, I’d have been a lot happier doing it, although I would have stayed in the first job then. Before that, I founded two failed startups one after the other, so those were out of the ordinary jobs. So, recent jobs, not very long, but the reasons I left were not because of noise related lack of focus. I try to be pretty open and direct with my bosses about what my plans or needs are and what I can offer given the environment I’m in.
andai 8y ago
"I get more done in 2 or 3 hours on an airplane, than I get done in 2 or 3 days at the office." -Brian Tracy

dkersten 8y ago

I’ve gotten to the point where I accept it as my bosses loss that I’m unable to work as effectively as I otherwise could, if I’m in a situation like that and can’t get out and I’m clear with them about it. If they give me flak for being unproductive in an unproductive environment then I leave, as I count that as a hostile environment (in the same vein as not being given the tools or information I need to do my work). Luckily for me, I’ve had reasonable bosses in my last few jobs and have had the option to work from home (although time in the office has still been in an open plan space).

growtofill 8y ago
With all the above, would you share how long on the average do you stay at one job?
- lozenge 8y ago
  You should be able to filter for this before you take a job. Just remember that it comes at a compromise - you will miss out on opportunities that are "better, but..."
  - dasmoth 8y ago
    You should, yes, but it seems as though open plan offices and the trappings are close to 100% in some areas. Remote jobs now seem to be the main alternative, but not everyone loves that setup (especially those who want to keep the work/home distinction super-clear).
- dkersten 8y ago
  My last two jobs were two years and one year. I only left the first because I was offered a team lead position working in technologies that I care enough about to run the local meet ups for, and the other I left only because the work I ended up doing was very different from what I was hired to do (ie I ended up doing rather little of the tech I was hired for), if I’d went into it knowing that, I’d have been a lot happier doing it, although I would have stayed in the first job then. Before that, I founded two failed startups one after the other, so those were out of the ordinary jobs. So, recent jobs, not very long, but the reasons I left were not because of noise related lack of focus. I try to be pretty open and direct with my bosses about what my plans or needs are and what I can offer given the environment I’m in.

andai 8y ago

"I get more done in 2 or 3 hours on an airplane, than I get done in 2 or 3 days at the office." -Brian Tracy