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She's a single mother of two. The article doesn't say how old her children are, but if they're young enough to need child care before and after school (they ma

She's a single mother of two. The article doesn't say how old her children are, but if they're young enough to need child care before and after school (they may go to different schools that start at different times than Cooke, and she has work to do before and after school starts) that will add up very quickly. You also don't know anything about how much money she had to borrow to afford getting her degree (or degrees if she has a Master's). So yeah, $69k can be a low amount of money, even in places like Raleigh with lower costs of living compared to New York or SF.

mtberatwork 8y ago
> that will add up very quickly Indeed, if both of her children are in daycare programs the costs can easily exceed the amount she pays for her rent or mortgage.
roel_v 8y ago
Daughters are teenagers, there's a pic in the article. If her predicament is because of student loans she had to take out to get this job, then the problem is really 'degrees are too expensive', and not 'teachers don't make enough', right? Or are excessive (relative to income) student loans an especially big problem for teachers? The median household income in Raleigh is 55k (first Google hit). She's making almost 20% more than that. Sure, she may have a bunch of expenses that others don't, but is the story then that teachers make too little, or is the story that some people have high student loan repayments, or pay a lot in alimony, or have to help out family, or have debts from previous bad marriages or whatever? My point is: if I was a PR guy, trying to gain public support for the idea that teachers are underpaid, I wouldn't show off someone who makes 20% more than the median household income on her own. If you're looking to make a point, you find some good examples of the problem you're illustrating; not even necessarily the worst cases, but surely not someone who raises questions for even a sympathetic reader like myself. So then I wonder in this case, what else is there 'hidden' in this story we're not being told but that would change the narrative substantially?
- scarface74 8y ago
  If she has expensive student loans and she knew she was going to be a teacher, that may be her fault. She could go have gone to a cheap state school.
- mirimir 8y ago
  Yes, that jumped out at me too. For whatever reason, $69K may not be a livable wage for her and her family. But most people in Raleigh would think, on the face of it, that she's making good money. But this is an article in Time, not a PR piece. Maybe the author has an agenda, or maybe they're playing it straight. Whatever, maybe Ms. Cooke should have declined the interview.
stmfreak 8y ago
You are describing a series of choices that have noting to do with the cost of hiring someone to do her job. Compensation is set based on scarcity, replacement cost AND the value of the work performed. For public sector positions, it is impossible to quantify the value so we fall back on the other two. Whether or not someone had a bunch of kids or bought a too expensive car doesn’t enter into whether their pay is fair.

mtberatwork 8y ago

> that will add up very quickly Indeed, if both of her children are in daycare programs the costs can easily exceed the amount she pays for her rent or mortgage.

roel_v 8y ago

Daughters are teenagers, there's a pic in the article. If her predicament is because of student loans she had to take out to get this job, then the problem is really 'degrees are too expensive', and not 'teachers don't make enough', right? Or are excessive (relative to income) student loans an especially big problem for teachers? The median household income in Raleigh is 55k (first Google hit). She's making almost 20% more than that. Sure, she may have a bunch of expenses that others don't, but is the story then that teachers make too little, or is the story that some people have high student loan repayments, or pay a lot in alimony, or have to help out family, or have debts from previous bad marriages or whatever? My point is: if I was a PR guy, trying to gain public support for the idea that teachers are underpaid, I wouldn't show off someone who makes 20% more than the median household income on her own. If you're looking to make a point, you find some good examples of the problem you're illustrating; not even necessarily the worst cases, but surely not someone who raises questions for even a sympathetic reader like myself. So then I wonder in this case, what else is there 'hidden' in this story we're not being told but that would change the narrative substantially?

scarface74 8y ago
If she has expensive student loans and she knew she was going to be a teacher, that may be her fault. She could go have gone to a cheap state school.
mirimir 8y ago
Yes, that jumped out at me too. For whatever reason, $69K may not be a livable wage for her and her family. But most people in Raleigh would think, on the face of it, that she's making good money. But this is an article in Time, not a PR piece. Maybe the author has an agenda, or maybe they're playing it straight. Whatever, maybe Ms. Cooke should have declined the interview.

stmfreak 8y ago

You are describing a series of choices that have noting to do with the cost of hiring someone to do her job. Compensation is set based on scarcity, replacement cost AND the value of the work performed. For public sector positions, it is impossible to quantify the value so we fall back on the other two. Whether or not someone had a bunch of kids or bought a too expensive car doesn’t enter into whether their pay is fair.