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>Could go either way. No it couldn't. That you and some number of other people think it can signals a truly disturbing disconnect from reality on par with glo

by antt 8y ago

>Could go either way. No it couldn't. That you and some number of other people think it can signals a truly disturbing disconnect from reality on par with global warming denial. Nuclear powers do not interfere with each others civilian infrastructure.

fribbles 8y ago
> Nuclear powers do not interfere with each others civilian infrastructure. You have to be kidding. Tell that to that doctor currently in prison in Pakistan for helping the US run a completely fraudulent public health vaccination program. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakil_Afridi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakil_Afridi There is also the US blowing up that USSR gas pipeline that tlb linked to - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1455559/CIA-plot-led-to-huge-blast-in-Siberian-gas-pipeline.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/... Then there is the recent reports of Russian infrastructure hacks on a whole range of US industries - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-16/russian-hackers-penetrated-u-s-aviation-sector-early-last-year https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-16/russian-h... And then of course, there is the ultimate infrastructure hack - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump Though that is probably just tit-for-tat, after the US assistance in the career of Boris Yeltsin.
- antt 8y ago
  >Tell that to that doctor currently in prison in Pakistan for helping the US run a completely fraudulent public health vaccination program Not infrastructure. >There is also the US blowing up that USSR gas pipeline that tlb linked to Counter industrial espionage. >Then there is the recent reports of Russian infrastructure hacks on a whole range of US industries Industrial espionage is confirmed, industrial sabotage are wild speculations with no proof behind them. > And then of course, there is the ultimate infrastructure hack Snark aside if you genuinely believe this you are helping delegitimize all US institutions. This is birtherism 2.0.
  - salawat 8y ago
    You're just changing infrastructure attack to industrial espionage. You calling it something else doesn't detract from the point that it's been done, and it was targeted at one country or another's infrastructure. Nukes don't deter infrastructure attacks. They ENCOURAGE them. Cripple your opponents ability to maintain his arsenal and coordinate his forces, and you could shift the odds of pulling off a crippling first strike immensely.
    - antt 8y ago
      I am genuinely terrified that there are apparently a number of people who share this attitude. Here's hoping none of you are anywhere near the leavers of power because this is far more dangerous than garden variety doomsday delusions like Jesus returning, or ignoring climate change.

by antt 8y ago

fribbles 8y ago

> Nuclear powers do not interfere with each others civilian infrastructure. You have to be kidding. Tell that to that doctor currently in prison in Pakistan for helping the US run a completely fraudulent public health vaccination program. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakil_Afridi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakil_Afridi There is also the US blowing up that USSR gas pipeline that tlb linked to - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1455559/CIA-plot-led-to-huge-blast-in-Siberian-gas-pipeline.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/... Then there is the recent reports of Russian infrastructure hacks on a whole range of US industries - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-16/russian-hackers-penetrated-u-s-aviation-sector-early-last-year https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-16/russian-h... And then of course, there is the ultimate infrastructure hack - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump Though that is probably just tit-for-tat, after the US assistance in the career of Boris Yeltsin.

antt 8y ago
>Tell that to that doctor currently in prison in Pakistan for helping the US run a completely fraudulent public health vaccination program Not infrastructure. >There is also the US blowing up that USSR gas pipeline that tlb linked to Counter industrial espionage. >Then there is the recent reports of Russian infrastructure hacks on a whole range of US industries Industrial espionage is confirmed, industrial sabotage are wild speculations with no proof behind them. > And then of course, there is the ultimate infrastructure hack Snark aside if you genuinely believe this you are helping delegitimize all US institutions. This is birtherism 2.0.
- salawat 8y ago
  You're just changing infrastructure attack to industrial espionage. You calling it something else doesn't detract from the point that it's been done, and it was targeted at one country or another's infrastructure. Nukes don't deter infrastructure attacks. They ENCOURAGE them. Cripple your opponents ability to maintain his arsenal and coordinate his forces, and you could shift the odds of pulling off a crippling first strike immensely.
  - antt 8y ago
    I am genuinely terrified that there are apparently a number of people who share this attitude. Here's hoping none of you are anywhere near the leavers of power because this is far more dangerous than garden variety doomsday delusions like Jesus returning, or ignoring climate change.