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Aware or not, they are still being manipulated. 25 years after Tiananmen, most Chinese university students have never heard of it https://www.vox.com/2014/6/3

Aware or not, they are still being manipulated. 25 years after Tiananmen, most Chinese university students have never heard of it https://www.vox.com/2014/6/3/5775918/25-years-after-tiananmen-most-chinese-univeristy-students-have-never https://www.vox.com/2014/6/3/5775918/25-years-after-tiananme...

jessaustin 8y ago
Lots of stuff gets swept under the rug. I received 13 years of USA primary and secondary education, and I've traveled in the Philippines. Despite that, I didn't learn until earlier this week that USA soldiers had killed hundreds of thousands of Filipinos at the turn of the century.
- WalterSear 8y ago
  That wasn't something that was done by people still alive and in power.
  - jessaustin 8y ago
    It's true that very few USA officials have been in office for 120 years. I'm not sure why that matters? USA actions during and after the Philippine-American War aren't substantially different than our actions in several subsequent wars. Although lots of Americans disagreed with it at the time, there's only enough room in the library for so many Mark Twain books. As these things do, pretty soon it all took on a sort of awful momentum, and then talking about it was pointless. McKinley himself played it off as just a tragic circumstance: "If old Dewey had just sailed away when he smashed that Spanish fleet, what a lot of trouble he would have saved us." "Gosh, if only we had known there were no WMDs!" Nothing about the Philippine-American War made it into any history book ever assigned to any student in USA, just as nothing about the liars who killed 600,000 Iraqis ever will. Aware or not, we are still being manipulated.
    - WalterSear 8y ago
      These are fair points, but don't address the fact that nobody is trying to hide the Iraq war from the internet.
      - jessaustin 8y ago
        I read lots of articles about Meuller, but none of them mention his testimony in support of the Iraq War.

jessaustin 8y ago

Lots of stuff gets swept under the rug. I received 13 years of USA primary and secondary education, and I've traveled in the Philippines. Despite that, I didn't learn until earlier this week that USA soldiers had killed hundreds of thousands of Filipinos at the turn of the century.

WalterSear 8y ago
That wasn't something that was done by people still alive and in power.
- jessaustin 8y ago
  It's true that very few USA officials have been in office for 120 years. I'm not sure why that matters? USA actions during and after the Philippine-American War aren't substantially different than our actions in several subsequent wars. Although lots of Americans disagreed with it at the time, there's only enough room in the library for so many Mark Twain books. As these things do, pretty soon it all took on a sort of awful momentum, and then talking about it was pointless. McKinley himself played it off as just a tragic circumstance: "If old Dewey had just sailed away when he smashed that Spanish fleet, what a lot of trouble he would have saved us." "Gosh, if only we had known there were no WMDs!" Nothing about the Philippine-American War made it into any history book ever assigned to any student in USA, just as nothing about the liars who killed 600,000 Iraqis ever will. Aware or not, we are still being manipulated.
  - WalterSear 8y ago
    These are fair points, but don't address the fact that nobody is trying to hide the Iraq war from the internet.
    - jessaustin 8y ago
      I read lots of articles about Meuller, but none of them mention his testimony in support of the Iraq War.