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Here's my favorite: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2553549/all-the-tcp-ip-ports-that-are-in-a-time-wait-status-are-not-closed-aft https://support.micr

by tetrep 8y ago

Here's my favorite: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2553549/all-the-tcp-ip-ports-that-are-in-a-time-wait-status-are-not-closed-aft https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2553549/all-the-tcp... article about it: https://blog.ctm-it.com/it-support/blogs/matt-cannon/2013/497-days-of-uptime-kills-windows https://blog.ctm-it.com/it-support/blogs/matt-cannon/2013/49... edit: If you want to be especially cynical, you can note that this wasn't discovered for a while because everyone running Windows reboots it regularly because of its notorious instability issues (the bug was found in 2013 and dates back to at least Vista, which was last updated in 2009).

com2kid 8y ago
> because everyone running Windows reboots it regularly because of its notorious instability issues I reboot monthly because getting owned by 0 days sucks, and at this point in life, every platform (except for OpenBSD) is having new exploits found against it at a rather fair rate. Same reason my phone gets rebooted once a month. Aside from that, I have had uptime on Windows boxes in excess of 6 months. Laptops on the other hand, those are more problematic, but it isn't Windows' fault if a WiFi card hard locks itself, has a dysfunctional watchdog timer on board, and needs to be power cycled to get it working again. OSes that can hot swap or live patch kernels can brag about uptimes. The rest of us should stay humble. (And AFAIK no modern consumer based OSes distributions do that)
- mr_toad 8y ago
  > Laptops on the other hand, those are more problematic Windows laptops. My MacBook has been up 56 days 14:06 hours.
  - com2kid 8y ago
    And my wife's MacBook randomly freaks out when plugged into an external display. Apple laptops have their fair share of hardware issues. Windows laptops tend to have more due to a shorter product cycle. Apple has longer relationships with their parts vendors and thus they have more time and leverage to force good firmware onto the multitudes of independent chips that make up a modern day computer.
nikanj 8y ago
That bug is over five years old. Are you implying there haven't been similar, or worse, bugs in other operating systems since? Windows used to suck, but it's somewhat unfair to judge the platform of 2018 because Vista of 2006 was bad for you.
- mmt 8y ago
  To be fair, the overall context of the conversation isn't (all) "other operating systems" but, specifically, mainframe ones. Additionally, the GP referenced "the past few decades", which certainly includes 5 years ago. Hopefully a mainframe expert can chime in as to whether the major mainframe OSes have included similar or worse bugs.

by tetrep 8y ago

com2kid 8y ago

> because everyone running Windows reboots it regularly because of its notorious instability issues I reboot monthly because getting owned by 0 days sucks, and at this point in life, every platform (except for OpenBSD) is having new exploits found against it at a rather fair rate. Same reason my phone gets rebooted once a month. Aside from that, I have had uptime on Windows boxes in excess of 6 months. Laptops on the other hand, those are more problematic, but it isn't Windows' fault if a WiFi card hard locks itself, has a dysfunctional watchdog timer on board, and needs to be power cycled to get it working again. OSes that can hot swap or live patch kernels can brag about uptimes. The rest of us should stay humble. (And AFAIK no modern consumer based OSes distributions do that)

mr_toad 8y ago
> Laptops on the other hand, those are more problematic Windows laptops. My MacBook has been up 56 days 14:06 hours.
- com2kid 8y ago
  And my wife's MacBook randomly freaks out when plugged into an external display. Apple laptops have their fair share of hardware issues. Windows laptops tend to have more due to a shorter product cycle. Apple has longer relationships with their parts vendors and thus they have more time and leverage to force good firmware onto the multitudes of independent chips that make up a modern day computer.

nikanj 8y ago

That bug is over five years old. Are you implying there haven't been similar, or worse, bugs in other operating systems since? Windows used to suck, but it's somewhat unfair to judge the platform of 2018 because Vista of 2006 was bad for you.

mmt 8y ago
To be fair, the overall context of the conversation isn't (all) "other operating systems" but, specifically, mainframe ones. Additionally, the GP referenced "the past few decades", which certainly includes 5 years ago. Hopefully a mainframe expert can chime in as to whether the major mainframe OSes have included similar or worse bugs.