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Whether or not a company / person actually has values is completely different from what they say about having values. If you truly have values, then your actio

Whether or not a company / person actually has values is completely different from what they say about having values. If you truly have values, then your actions are aligned with, consistent with, and demonstrate your stated values. It’s easy to talk about having values. Usually the pretense is dropped when the chance to advance self interest like money comes up.

jimmy1 8y ago
> Usually the pretense is dropped when the chance to advance self interest like money comes up When money is also the means to survival, it warrants a little more nuance than to wholly dismiss someone compromising in some way in order to live to fight another day. From my perspective, most people who "stand up for whats right" have enough money to do so.
- hguhghuff 8y ago
  Google would survive without China.
- miles 8y ago
  > From my perspective, most people who "stand up for whats right" have enough money to do so. Those with significant assets may be _less_ inclined to upset the current order; war resisters, peace activists, and protesters of all stripes are often not from the moneyed classes.
  - ams6110 8y ago
    Right, they often have very little or nothing. Which puts them in the other category of people who will stand up: those who have nothing to lose.
- erikpukinskis 8y ago
  In what sense does a Google employee need their job to “survive”?
ams6110 8y ago
Values can be an excuse though. I know a guy who quits his job (or does something to get him fired) about every 9 - 18 months, and his reasons are always along the lines of "my boss was liar, and I can't compromise my values" when really I think he's some combination of lazy and/or afraid to assume any real responsibility at work.
brightball 8y ago
In other words, "Putting your money where your mouth is." Even though I don't necessarily agree with him, I see where he's coming from and I commend that he's actually willing to put his money where his mouth is on the matter.
- hguhghuff 8y ago
  Actually I was referring to google.
  - ArchTypical 8y ago
    > company / person Edit?

jimmy1 8y ago

> Usually the pretense is dropped when the chance to advance self interest like money comes up When money is also the means to survival, it warrants a little more nuance than to wholly dismiss someone compromising in some way in order to live to fight another day. From my perspective, most people who "stand up for whats right" have enough money to do so.

hguhghuff 8y ago
Google would survive without China.
miles 8y ago
> From my perspective, most people who "stand up for whats right" have enough money to do so. Those with significant assets may be _less_ inclined to upset the current order; war resisters, peace activists, and protesters of all stripes are often not from the moneyed classes.
- ams6110 8y ago
  Right, they often have very little or nothing. Which puts them in the other category of people who will stand up: those who have nothing to lose.
erikpukinskis 8y ago
In what sense does a Google employee need their job to “survive”?

ams6110 8y ago

Values can be an excuse though. I know a guy who quits his job (or does something to get him fired) about every 9 - 18 months, and his reasons are always along the lines of "my boss was liar, and I can't compromise my values" when really I think he's some combination of lazy and/or afraid to assume any real responsibility at work.

brightball 8y ago

In other words, "Putting your money where your mouth is." Even though I don't necessarily agree with him, I see where he's coming from and I commend that he's actually willing to put his money where his mouth is on the matter.

hguhghuff 8y ago
Actually I was referring to google.
- ArchTypical 8y ago
  > company / person Edit?