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I've heard it's around 5% of iPhones in the US based on app user data.

by kolbe 8y ago

bunderbunder 8y ago
Which may be a biased way of estimating total share of the phone market, if SE users have different app consumption habits from users of other models. Which is a plausible hypothesis. Choosing a phone that's got a markedly smaller screen than anything else on the market seems like the kind of thing you'd be more likely to do if you don't intend to spend a whole lot of time looking at said screen. Whereas, if you're going to be spending a lot of time Facebooking or playing games on your phone, then yeah, having more screen real estate is going to matter relatively more to you. It might also explain why Apple's not demonstrating too much concern about servicing the SE camp - they (OK, I should come clean here - we) might just not be a particularly profitable segment of Apple's user base.
- kolbe 8y ago
  I think, instead, they know people like me will have to pay more for a device that doesn't meet my needs very well. They can leverage the fact that I need iOS, and can proceed to force people like me to pay more and more because we're locked into the ecosystem, even if there aren't any phones that are compact. I got my SE for $100. I think y'all are unsatisfied with that revenue, and at this point, the XS is my next best option. So, I doubt they are discontinuing because they don't care about us. It's just a calculated bet that they won't actually lose us. >they (OK, I should come clean here - we) might just not be a particularly profitable segment of Apple's user base. I think this is a bad way to think of it, though. I know that's the way a McKinsey analyst might think of product, but it doesn't have long term focus. It's a lot like how Facebook quit caring about unprofitable people (the well-educated crowd), in order to cater to the consumerist suckers. But as the interesting people who created the content that built facebook into what it is today have fled, that content has gone with, and consumerist suckers are no longer entertained. The people I know with SEs are kind of like that crowd. If you start putting Androids into their hand, the rest of the people will take notice and follow.
  - bunderbunder 8y ago
    Probably well-calculated. As many others have observed, with the iPhone SE leaving the market, the only remaining options for small phones are underpowered and low-quality Android models, and feature phones. As still others have observed, this duopoly situation in the smartphone market is maybe not the best thing ever.

I've heard it's around 5% of iPhones in the US based on app user data.

by kolbe 8y ago

I've heard it's around 5% of iPhones in the US based on app user data.

Which may be a biased way of estimating total share of the phone market, if SE users have different app consumption habits from users of other models. Which is a plausible hypothesis. Choosing a phone that's got a markedly smaller screen than anything else on the market seems like the kind of thing you'd be more likely to do if you don't intend to spend a whole lot of time looking at said screen. Whereas, if you're going to be spending a lot of time Facebooking or playing games on your phone, then yeah, having more screen real estate is going to matter relatively more to you. It might also explain why Apple's not demonstrating too much concern about servicing the SE camp - they (OK, I should come clean here - we) might just not be a particularly profitable segment of Apple's user base.

kolbe 8y ago
I think, instead, they know people like me will have to pay more for a device that doesn't meet my needs very well. They can leverage the fact that I need iOS, and can proceed to force people like me to pay more and more because we're locked into the ecosystem, even if there aren't any phones that are compact. I got my SE for $100. I think y'all are unsatisfied with that revenue, and at this point, the XS is my next best option. So, I doubt they are discontinuing because they don't care about us. It's just a calculated bet that they won't actually lose us. >they (OK, I should come clean here - we) might just not be a particularly profitable segment of Apple's user base. I think this is a bad way to think of it, though. I know that's the way a McKinsey analyst might think of product, but it doesn't have long term focus. It's a lot like how Facebook quit caring about unprofitable people (the well-educated crowd), in order to cater to the consumerist suckers. But as the interesting people who created the content that built facebook into what it is today have fled, that content has gone with, and consumerist suckers are no longer entertained. The people I know with SEs are kind of like that crowd. If you start putting Androids into their hand, the rest of the people will take notice and follow.
- bunderbunder 8y ago
  Probably well-calculated. As many others have observed, with the iPhone SE leaving the market, the only remaining options for small phones are underpowered and low-quality Android models, and feature phones. As still others have observed, this duopoly situation in the smartphone market is maybe not the best thing ever.