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I guess then I have no idea why Redux is so widely used, given now the Context API exists.

alexkoeh 8y ago
Redux the library is not "state management for react". It's more of a concept that gives you a predictable structure around how state changes over time. I think what you're thinking of is specifically the `react-redux` library which gave a nice abstraction to the old & clunky React context API. The new context API was released with React 16.3 (which came out March of this year).
acemarke 8y ago
Multiple reasons. First, Redux has been around since 2015 (and won the "Flux Wars" that had been going on for a year before that), whereas the new `createContext` API only came out a few months ago. Second, Redux provides a lot more guidance around how you're supposed to structure your application. Context only provides a method for making values available to deeply nested components in the tree. Third, the Redux ecosystem is huge, with addons available for effectively any use case you can think of. [0] Please see my post "Redux - Not Dead Yet!" [1] and Dave Ceddia's post "Redux vs the React Context API" [2] for more details on how they relate. [0] https://blog.isquaredsoftware.com/2017/09/presentation-might-need-redux-ecosystem/ https://blog.isquaredsoftware.com/2017/09/presentation-might... [1] https://blog.isquaredsoftware.com/2018/03/redux-not-dead-yet/ https://blog.isquaredsoftware.com/2018/03/redux-not-dead-yet... [2] https://daveceddia.com/context-api-vs-redux/ https://daveceddia.com/context-api-vs-redux/
beaconstudios 8y ago
the new Context API replaces the `connect()`/`<Provider />` functionality, but not the flux data flow model. Nor does it provide a replacement for the surrounding redux ecosystem - so there's still plenty of benefit to using redux.
tptacek 8y ago
Redux is overused, because of a meme that suggests that the de facto standard React "stack" is React, Redux, and React-Router. That's just a meme (Dan Abramov even wrote a blog post debunking it!) but some memes are hard to fight.
mikewhy 8y ago
The new Context API can't be used in lifecycle methods, which is a bit of a letdown.

Redux the library is not "state management for react". It's more of a concept that gives you a predictable structure around how state changes over time. I think what you're thinking of is specifically the `react-redux` library which gave a nice abstraction to the old & clunky React context API. The new context API was released with React 16.3 (which came out March of this year).

acemarke 8y ago

Multiple reasons. First, Redux has been around since 2015 (and won the "Flux Wars" that had been going on for a year before that), whereas the new `createContext` API only came out a few months ago. Second, Redux provides a lot more guidance around how you're supposed to structure your application. Context only provides a method for making values available to deeply nested components in the tree. Third, the Redux ecosystem is huge, with addons available for effectively any use case you can think of. [0] Please see my post "Redux - Not Dead Yet!" [1] and Dave Ceddia's post "Redux vs the React Context API" [2] for more details on how they relate. [0] https://blog.isquaredsoftware.com/2017/09/presentation-might-need-redux-ecosystem/ https://blog.isquaredsoftware.com/2017/09/presentation-might... [1] https://blog.isquaredsoftware.com/2018/03/redux-not-dead-yet/ https://blog.isquaredsoftware.com/2018/03/redux-not-dead-yet... [2] https://daveceddia.com/context-api-vs-redux/ https://daveceddia.com/context-api-vs-redux/

beaconstudios 8y ago

the new Context API replaces the `connect()`/`<Provider />` functionality, but not the flux data flow model. Nor does it provide a replacement for the surrounding redux ecosystem - so there's still plenty of benefit to using redux.

tptacek 8y ago

Redux is overused, because of a meme that suggests that the de facto standard React "stack" is React, Redux, and React-Router. That's just a meme (Dan Abramov even wrote a blog post debunking it!) but some memes are hard to fight.

mikewhy 8y ago

The new Context API can't be used in lifecycle methods, which is a bit of a letdown.