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From the mid 70's until the late 80's, Australia's university education (tuition) was free. In the late 80's, a scheme was introduced whereby degrees were assi
by __d 8y ago
From the mid 70's until the late 80's, Australia's university education (tuition) was free.
In the late 80's, a scheme was introduced whereby degrees were assigned to a number of bands based on your likely income as a result of that degree. At the time, IIRC, medicine and law were in the top band, while eg. philosophy was in the lowest band. Each band had an annual price for enrollment, but they were iirc, $2500, $3500, and $4500 in maybe 1988 or 1989.
You paid nothing during your studies, but once your taxable income exceeded a threshold, you paid an additional couple of percent on your income tax until the accumulated debt from your education was repaid. This was part of the income tax withheld for most salary earners, and so was largely invisible.
In addition to that, students enrolled in a recognized educational institution get an allowance for living costs. In the 80's and 90's, this was sufficient to live on (food, rent) and you could earn enough extra income to get a social life and textbooks and so on without losing your allowance.
Healthcare is basically gratis in Australia too, so it was quite feasible to attend university with a small amount of part-time work with limited or even no financial support from your family.
Over the last 30 years, the repayment percentage has increased, the starting threshold has gone down, the annual fees have gone up, and the weekly allowance hasn't kept pace with the cost of living. But ...
Even without going to the "extreme" of genuinely gratis tuition, there's plenty of precedent for a system which gives everyone a decent opportunity for education regardless of their financial circumstances.
- Retric 8y agoIt seems backward in that you charge less money for lower paying degrees independent of what someone actually makes.
- kevin_thibedeau 8y agoThat would just incentivize people to pile onto the perceived high value programs like when everyone got into CS during the first dotcom bubble. Not a fitting solution for an institution intended to develop capable members of society rather than just making money.
- DesiLurker 8y agoThis is reality of capitalism in America, Money is the only religion we have here.
- geezerjay 8y agoYour comment would only make sense if higher education institutions didn't evaluated students throughout the whole degree. If a school ends up graduating individuals that are not capable members of society then clearly the problem is not how many freshmen enrolled in a course.
- hcknwscommenter 8y agoA point that could be discussed endlessly because there are so many ways to look at it. I would like to note that by not looking at what someone actually makes you remove that particular incentive to hide income and you remove that particular disincentive on becoming wildly successful in spite of the lower-paying degree.
- hcknwscommenter 8y agoIt's also worth pointing out that the higher-paying degree holder still generally comes out way ahead over a career-length timeline.
- JimmyAustin 8y agoI honestly don't know anyone in my (australian) high-school cohort who even thought about the varying costs of under-grad degrees. It's such a small difference, and it's all covered under HECS anyway.