They are clearly still worth a bucket of money (and still make a lot of money), I was more speaking towards technology, market capture, buzz worthy. From where

They are clearly still worth a bucket of money (and still make a lot of money), I was more speaking towards technology, market capture, buzz worthy. From where they were when Ballmer took over to where they are now they are a relatively second tier company. They are playing catch up and no one looks forward to using their products.