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> I imagine Tesla pushing into profit with time to spare Is your imagination based on any facts, or just your feelings? From my point of view, they are not c

> I imagine Tesla pushing into profit with time to spare Is your imagination based on any facts, or just your feelings? From my point of view, they are not currently profitable and becoming profitable is not in the near future. Are there any independent analysts that are predicting Telsa profitability on the same timeline as Tesla themselves?

radium3d 8y ago
Based on the information direct from Tesla about the consistent manufacturing acceleration.
- txcwpalpha 8y ago
  So in your comment further up, you're implying that Bloomberg et al have some kind of ulterior motives for writing articles about Tesla's shortcomings and are decrying them for it, but you're also willing to take full stock in information directly from Tesla without questioning it? You might be right that these authors have some kind of bias against Tesla, but it is a 100% certainty that Tesla has a bias for itself. It seems hypocritical to distrust independent news organizations but then blindly trust Tesla.
  - radium3d 8y ago
    I'm talking strictly manufacturing numbers, are you saying Bloomberg or any other outside organization knows a more accurate number?
    - txcwpalpha 8y ago
      If you're looking at "strictly manufacturing numbers", then you're only looking at part of the picture, conveniently, the part that Tesla wants you to look at. News organizations provide extra contextual information that reveals that "strictly manufacturing numbers" aren't representative of the company's performance. This is why they are valued. But that's getting away from the point: you're distrustful of news organizations for possibly having motives, and yet you're trustful of Tesla even though they definitely have motives. It doesn't make sense.
      - radium3d 8y ago
        They may have motives but there are laws in place that prevent them from falsifying the data required to come to an intelligent conclusion of whether Tesla will pay off their debt or not so the data better not be false. As for the news organizations, there is a possibility they have motives and the way many of the articles are composed does not help the case that they do not have motives, whether that be get the most clicks or push down another organization. I believe they have laws in place as well to protect readers from this sort of behavior, but I'm not sure. Both types of organizations have been known to break the law though so we're left wondering what the future will hold. It will be fun to look back in the months ahead and see which theory was correct.
        gamblor956 8y ago
        Both types of organizations have been known to break the law though so we're left wondering what the future will hold. It will be fun to look back in the months ahead and see which theory was correct. If you're going to make a broadly defamatory claim about an entire industry, you need to back it up with evidence.
        radium3d 8y ago
        Sorry VW comes to mind in the auto industry and I'd have to Google "news company found guilty" for you for the other.

radium3d 8y ago

Based on the information direct from Tesla about the consistent manufacturing acceleration.

txcwpalpha 8y ago
So in your comment further up, you're implying that Bloomberg et al have some kind of ulterior motives for writing articles about Tesla's shortcomings and are decrying them for it, but you're also willing to take full stock in information directly from Tesla without questioning it? You might be right that these authors have some kind of bias against Tesla, but it is a 100% certainty that Tesla has a bias for itself. It seems hypocritical to distrust independent news organizations but then blindly trust Tesla.
- radium3d 8y ago
  I'm talking strictly manufacturing numbers, are you saying Bloomberg or any other outside organization knows a more accurate number?
  - txcwpalpha 8y ago
    If you're looking at "strictly manufacturing numbers", then you're only looking at part of the picture, conveniently, the part that Tesla wants you to look at. News organizations provide extra contextual information that reveals that "strictly manufacturing numbers" aren't representative of the company's performance. This is why they are valued. But that's getting away from the point: you're distrustful of news organizations for possibly having motives, and yet you're trustful of Tesla even though they definitely have motives. It doesn't make sense.
    - radium3d 8y ago
      They may have motives but there are laws in place that prevent them from falsifying the data required to come to an intelligent conclusion of whether Tesla will pay off their debt or not so the data better not be false. As for the news organizations, there is a possibility they have motives and the way many of the articles are composed does not help the case that they do not have motives, whether that be get the most clicks or push down another organization. I believe they have laws in place as well to protect readers from this sort of behavior, but I'm not sure. Both types of organizations have been known to break the law though so we're left wondering what the future will hold. It will be fun to look back in the months ahead and see which theory was correct.
      - gamblor956 8y ago
        Both types of organizations have been known to break the law though so we're left wondering what the future will hold. It will be fun to look back in the months ahead and see which theory was correct. If you're going to make a broadly defamatory claim about an entire industry, you need to back it up with evidence.
        radium3d 8y ago
        Sorry VW comes to mind in the auto industry and I'd have to Google "news company found guilty" for you for the other.