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Heh, even racist policies would not stop this. You could just offer non-Chinese Americans a hefty reward + a Chinese passport as a reward for their espionage.

Heh, even racist policies would not stop this. You could just offer non-Chinese Americans a hefty reward + a Chinese passport as a reward for their espionage. Given the number of Gen-Z or Millennials straddled with debt, in an era with little company/employee loyalty (both ways), it seems like the recruitment pool would be quite big. Pick someone "All American" looking and be done with it. Both the Soviets and the Chinese have done similar things to steal military secrets.

3pt14159 8y ago
I've normally heard it that they pay current insiders rather than try to get outsiders to join. Though I'd appreciate links to well documented cases to the contrary. Also, really, none of this matters for 99.99% of the companies out there. The weak point is far from hiring practices. The weak point is almost always cybersec or social engineering.
- kryogen1c 8y ago
  Not an hour ago, I talked to a client who thought an employees email was hacked because they got this email: From: employee name (sjfjro@garbage.io) Subject: direct deposit Boss, I have a new account, please change my direct deposit info. Yours, Employee name They changed the direct deposit info. Need a wetware version update.
  - buckminster 8y ago
    I'm being thick. If they thought it was a hack why did they change the deposit info?
  - phyller 8y ago
    Also, I'm really into cryptocurrencies now. Please pay me in bitcoin.
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phyller 8y ago
These days, the Chinese and Russians can get whatever they want from companies like Equifax without leaving the comfort of their own homes or dealing with messy human interactions. Either one of them can, and most likely did, hack Equifax at will. I would be surprised if a large company with very good security practices could resist them indefinitely, Equifax wasn't going to hold them off. The difference between state actors and regular thieves is the state actors don't want anyone to know about it. Sony got wrecked by North Korea because they wanted them to feel the pain. That could happen at almost any company, just the state actors want a long-term strategic advantage not a short-term one. The ubiquity of technology in all aspects of our society makes us extremely vulnerable to losing a digital war. We have so much more to lose, and so much more surface area vulnerable to attack. Seriously, North Korea was able to assert their will on us just to (successfully) keep a movie from being released to theaters.

3pt14159 8y ago

I've normally heard it that they pay current insiders rather than try to get outsiders to join. Though I'd appreciate links to well documented cases to the contrary. Also, really, none of this matters for 99.99% of the companies out there. The weak point is far from hiring practices. The weak point is almost always cybersec or social engineering.

kryogen1c 8y ago
Not an hour ago, I talked to a client who thought an employees email was hacked because they got this email: From: employee name (sjfjro@garbage.io) Subject: direct deposit Boss, I have a new account, please change my direct deposit info. Yours, Employee name They changed the direct deposit info. Need a wetware version update.
- buckminster 8y ago
  I'm being thick. If they thought it was a hack why did they change the deposit info?
- phyller 8y ago
  Also, I'm really into cryptocurrencies now. Please pay me in bitcoin.

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phyller 8y ago

These days, the Chinese and Russians can get whatever they want from companies like Equifax without leaving the comfort of their own homes or dealing with messy human interactions. Either one of them can, and most likely did, hack Equifax at will. I would be surprised if a large company with very good security practices could resist them indefinitely, Equifax wasn't going to hold them off. The difference between state actors and regular thieves is the state actors don't want anyone to know about it. Sony got wrecked by North Korea because they wanted them to feel the pain. That could happen at almost any company, just the state actors want a long-term strategic advantage not a short-term one. The ubiquity of technology in all aspects of our society makes us extremely vulnerable to losing a digital war. We have so much more to lose, and so much more surface area vulnerable to attack. Seriously, North Korea was able to assert their will on us just to (successfully) keep a movie from being released to theaters.