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> the beloved ones from FOSS. I don't recall these being "beloved". This sounds like a troll to me. Sure Intel do FOSS graphics driver development, but I doub

> the beloved ones from FOSS. I don't recall these being "beloved". This sounds like a troll to me. Sure Intel do FOSS graphics driver development, but I doubt they've ever been beloved due to their constant scandals (ME and Meltdown recently, and further back there's ClassMate, Itanium/Itanic, etc.) AMD promised open drivers. We're still waiting. ARM systems are usually locked down and full of blobs (e.g. for graphics, etc.). Plus ARM don't make chips, they just sell licenses to their designs to third parties, which is completely anti-FOSS. Google do support a lot of FOSS development, but their online monopolies and spying infrastructure have always kept people suspicious. Apple has a habit of turning liberally licensed FOSS into proprietary software (e.g. OSX is based on Mach and BSD, Safari is based on KHTML, etc.). Their mobile OS also requires programs to be signed, and they charge a $99 fee for developers to get a certificate. As far as I'm aware IBM have historically been the enemy. They certainly pushed Linux forward around the millenium, but since then I've not come across them outside bloated "enterprise solutions" that I doubt many in the FOSS world would consider relevant.

pjmlp 8y ago
Exactly, however everyone jumps of joy in a "us vs Microsoft" when they release something for FOSS.
majewsky 8y ago
> AMD promised open drivers. We're still waiting. https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/drivers/gpu/dr... There you go.
Valmar 8y ago
> AMD promised open drivers. We're still waiting. No, we aren't. AMD's promise was fulfilled quite a while ago. They officially contributed, and work on, a FOSS driver for the Linux kernel, and also for Mesa. One of their devs is one of the most active Mesa committers this year alone. AMD are more committed than Intel is, it would seem, given that AMD's drivers are far better quality than Intel's.
- chriswarbo 8y ago
  I'm happy to be corrected; for the record I searched for this before posting, and found things like https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon... which are very recent and talk about installing AMD proprietary drivers. (I haven't been tracking this closely since I've avoid NVidia and ATI (hence AMD) graphics for about 15 years, due to their driver blobs)

pjmlp 8y ago

Exactly, however everyone jumps of joy in a "us vs Microsoft" when they release something for FOSS.

majewsky 8y ago

> AMD promised open drivers. We're still waiting. https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/drivers/gpu/dr... There you go.

Valmar 8y ago

> AMD promised open drivers. We're still waiting. No, we aren't. AMD's promise was fulfilled quite a while ago. They officially contributed, and work on, a FOSS driver for the Linux kernel, and also for Mesa. One of their devs is one of the most active Mesa committers this year alone. AMD are more committed than Intel is, it would seem, given that AMD's drivers are far better quality than Intel's.

chriswarbo 8y ago
I'm happy to be corrected; for the record I searched for this before posting, and found things like https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon... which are very recent and talk about installing AMD proprietary drivers. (I haven't been tracking this closely since I've avoid NVidia and ATI (hence AMD) graphics for about 15 years, due to their driver blobs)