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I disagree. Quitting at any age, even after 40 years of smoking, is still very beneficial to your health. I don’t see any of your “statistics” linked.

ajross 8y ago
The point was that if you trade "make it easier to quit" for "more new addicts from candy nicotine products", you're making a bad trade. You really want me to cite the numbers for how many smokers quit? It's depressingly low -- like 30% over a lifetime or something like that.
- mcbits 8y ago
  According to the article, there are currently 2.1 million underage "candy nicotine" users. How many of them would have been smokers if the alternative didn't exist? If it's banned, how many will switch to regular cigarettes vs. unflavored e-cigarettes? What are the relative risks of each? Unfortunately nobody actually knows the relative risks, which is the most pressing problem here.
- seibelj 8y ago
  Considering there is no definitive proof that vapes cause cancer, there is overwhelming evidence that cigarettes are responsible for a whole array of cancers and diseases, and I see teenagers and young adults smoking cigarettes all around Boston (even elite college kids), allowing Juul and other vapes to advertise and sell at retail seems like a worthwhile and beneficial option for society.
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  - ceejayoz 8y ago
    > Considering there is no definitive proof that vapes cause cancer, there is overwhelming evidence that cigarettes are responsible for a whole array of cancers and diseases... The tobacco industry was able to hold off the "definitive proof" - which they were entirely aware of internally - for decades. It seems quite likely that inhaling vaporized chemicals multiple times a day will have some health impacts. As with tobacco, the evidence will take a long while to accumulate, and the industry is likely to obfuscate as long as possible.
Anon1096 8y ago
There's a lot more kids out there than current smokers.

ajross 8y ago

The point was that if you trade "make it easier to quit" for "more new addicts from candy nicotine products", you're making a bad trade. You really want me to cite the numbers for how many smokers quit? It's depressingly low -- like 30% over a lifetime or something like that.

mcbits 8y ago
According to the article, there are currently 2.1 million underage "candy nicotine" users. How many of them would have been smokers if the alternative didn't exist? If it's banned, how many will switch to regular cigarettes vs. unflavored e-cigarettes? What are the relative risks of each? Unfortunately nobody actually knows the relative risks, which is the most pressing problem here.
seibelj 8y ago
Considering there is no definitive proof that vapes cause cancer, there is overwhelming evidence that cigarettes are responsible for a whole array of cancers and diseases, and I see teenagers and young adults smoking cigarettes all around Boston (even elite college kids), allowing Juul and other vapes to advertise and sell at retail seems like a worthwhile and beneficial option for society.
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- ceejayoz 8y ago
  > Considering there is no definitive proof that vapes cause cancer, there is overwhelming evidence that cigarettes are responsible for a whole array of cancers and diseases... The tobacco industry was able to hold off the "definitive proof" - which they were entirely aware of internally - for decades. It seems quite likely that inhaling vaporized chemicals multiple times a day will have some health impacts. As with tobacco, the evidence will take a long while to accumulate, and the industry is likely to obfuscate as long as possible.

Anon1096 8y ago

There's a lot more kids out there than current smokers.