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I am italian and i won't ever understand my country! We are years behind other tech countries (in terms of laws and legislation and business support) and we are

by andretti1977 8y ago

I am italian and i won't ever understand my country! We are years behind other tech countries (in terms of laws and legislation and business support) and we are the land of neverending trials and let a lot of crimes be committed without effective punishment and then an italian court sent to prison somebody for fake reviews...i'm happy they let justice do its work in this case, simply it seems so unusual and a little bit exaggerated since others crimes aren't punished with the same severity

presscast 8y ago
Londoner here -- I see a lot of your compatriots working on awesome tech products. To boot, they all seem to be TechItalia graduates, so it seems like Italy has a serious brain-drain problem :/
- marcyb5st 8y ago
  I am one of these "escaped brains". The explanation is extremely simple. In my case, after finishing Uni (degree in CS), I applied for few companies in my area, near Verona which is a wealthy part of Italy. The best salary I managed to bargain was around 1000 euro per month (gross). This leaves you with a 750 Euro net and basically no benefits. Take away rent, a little bit of leisure, and transportation costs you basically save nothing. At that point I said fuck it. I started looking for jobs on the other side of the Alps and landed a job at Google in Switzerland that pays 10X that. And yes, Switzerland is crazy expensive, but not 10X Italy! I miss Italy, but it now became a holiday destination for me.
  - ensignavenger 8y ago
    Doe Italy not have a minimum wage, or is it just really low?
    - marcyb5st 8y ago
      Some working categories have it, some don't. IT didn't back in 2013, the period when I decided to pack my stuff and go. Now I believe it has been incorporated in the metalworker category (see below). Minimum salary for year 2018/2019 (hourly/monthly) Clothing and fashion 6,60 € 1.144 € Agricolture 7,13 € 1.235,87 € Tourism 7,17 € 1.242,80 € Metalworker 7,32 € 1.268,80 € Construction 7,59 € 1.315,60 € Food industry 8,21 € 1.423,07 € Finance 11,11 € 1.925,73 €
the_mitsuhiko 8y ago
I’m sure selling fake reviews is fraud in other countries too.

presscast 8y ago

Londoner here -- I see a lot of your compatriots working on awesome tech products. To boot, they all seem to be TechItalia graduates, so it seems like Italy has a serious brain-drain problem :/

marcyb5st 8y ago
I am one of these "escaped brains". The explanation is extremely simple. In my case, after finishing Uni (degree in CS), I applied for few companies in my area, near Verona which is a wealthy part of Italy. The best salary I managed to bargain was around 1000 euro per month (gross). This leaves you with a 750 Euro net and basically no benefits. Take away rent, a little bit of leisure, and transportation costs you basically save nothing. At that point I said fuck it. I started looking for jobs on the other side of the Alps and landed a job at Google in Switzerland that pays 10X that. And yes, Switzerland is crazy expensive, but not 10X Italy! I miss Italy, but it now became a holiday destination for me.
- ensignavenger 8y ago
  Doe Italy not have a minimum wage, or is it just really low?
  - marcyb5st 8y ago
    Some working categories have it, some don't. IT didn't back in 2013, the period when I decided to pack my stuff and go. Now I believe it has been incorporated in the metalworker category (see below). Minimum salary for year 2018/2019 (hourly/monthly) Clothing and fashion 6,60 € 1.144 € Agricolture 7,13 € 1.235,87 € Tourism 7,17 € 1.242,80 € Metalworker 7,32 € 1.268,80 € Construction 7,59 € 1.315,60 € Food industry 8,21 € 1.423,07 € Finance 11,11 € 1.925,73 €

the_mitsuhiko 8y ago

I’m sure selling fake reviews is fraud in other countries too.