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Somewhat off-topic, it depresses me that passport requirements are so ingrained. Wikipedia: > ...up to World War I, passports were not required, on the who
by charlesism 8y ago
Somewhat off-topic, it depresses me that passport requirements are so ingrained. Wikipedia:
> ...up to World War I, passports were not required, on the whole, for travel
> within Europe, and crossing a border was a relatively straightforward
> procedure...
> During World War I, European governments introduced border passport
> requirements for security reasons, and to control the emigration of people
> with useful skills. These controls remained in place after the war, becoming
> a standard, though controversial, procedure. British tourists of the 1920s
> complained, especially about attached photographs and physical descriptions,
> which they considered led to a "nasty dehumanization"
- larrysalibra 8y agoEurope for travel within the Schengen Zone has at least been moving back in the right direction of no papers required for travel. Meanwhile, in North America and the Caribbean it was perfectly normal to be able to travel around with no passport up until just a decade or so ago. I remember being able to go to visit Canada from the USA with nothing more than someone asking if you if you are a US citizen. That freedom to travel is yet another right that was thrown out the door because of 9/11 via the "Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative" [1] which would be more aptly named the "Western Hemisphere Restriction of Travel Initiative" Sad. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere_Travel_Initiative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere_Travel_Init...
- jankotek 8y agoYou need documents to travel on some routes within Schengen. At least from Greece and Italy.
- oh_sigh 8y agoHow many people have the means to travel, the desire to travel, but can't manage to get a passport or appropriate document? My question is basically is it really a restriction of travel, or just a small hurdle to travel where there are already much larger hurdles?
- sneak 8y agoJust because you don’t need a passport doesn’t mean you can travel without unambiguously identifying yourself in Schengen. It amounts to the same thing. It doesn’t matter what identity paperwork you show if it includes your full name, dob, and a biometric photo. Try boarding a plane for a domestic flight even inside of one Schengen country without these things and see how far you get.
- S4M 8y agoI traveled a few time within the Schengen space. I was never asked to show any identity document.
- yodon 8y agoPlease don't use code formatting for quotes. It make sure the content you want people to read unreadable on mobile.