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Question: why do you drive? You could easily walk that distance in 2 hours, and driving just makes the problem worse for everyone.

• inferiorhuman 8y ago
  > Question: why do you drive? You could easily walk that distance in 2 hours, and driving just makes the problem worse for everyone. Agreed 100%. About the only time I drive within the Bay Area is if I'm going outside the SF / Oakland / Berkeley urban core. This Labor Day I was going to Marin and planned poorly (driving the day of instead of leaving earlier). Once you get out of that urban core (or if you're traveling late at night) public transit nearly evaporates. Without traffic that would have been around a two hour bus ride. However there are no dedicated lanes for buses along 19th / Park Presidio so that would've been easily a 3-4 hour bus trip with a few untimed transfers thrown in for good measure.