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> Here's a very, very simple chart that shows population with tertiary education [1]. The US is not significantly above other countries where education is paid
by chimeracoder 8y ago
> Here's a very, very simple chart that shows population with tertiary education [1]. The US is not significantly above other countries where education is paid for by the government.
As you can plainly see in the data, the US has significantly more graduates than each of the counties I listed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tertiary_education_attainment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tertiary_...
> What's more is that those numbers are very generous to the US because, as everybody knows, most colleges in the US are shit.
It's appalling that people can drop this kind of drivel on an HN thread and let it stand. Most colleges in the US are not "shit", by any measure. And while non-selective schools and for-profit schools make for good headlines, they form a minuscule proportion of the college-educated population.
> But, yes, somehow we need to get the government out of education. That will surely fix everything.
You're responding to claims I never made, which reveals that you're less interested in having an actual conversation than you are in pushing an ideological stance. That's not going to be productive, so I have no interest in continuing this further.
- detaro 8y agoCould it be that one of you is looking at the young age bracket (=people who likely finished university in the past few years) and the other at all ages?
- dnomad 8y agoThe data on Wikipedia is out of date though it cites oecd.org. Go straight to oecd.org for the correct data. (It's not good that Wikipedia copies data like that. If only we had decent transclusion capabilities on the web.)
- dnomad 8y ago> It's appalling that people can drop this kind of drivel on an HN thread and let it stand. It's not drivel if it's backed by actual data [1][2]. This always seems to come as a complete surprise because it's difficult for many people to grasp how profoundly unequal America is. America has most of the best colleges in the world and they produce probably the most dynamic minds out there... but on average the system is comparable to Poland. [1] http://www.oecd.org/skills/piaac/Country%20note%20-%20United%20States.pdf http://www.oecd.org/skills/piaac/Country%20note%20-%20United... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/29/upshot/americans-think-we-have-the-worlds-best-colleges-we-dont.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/29/upshot/americans-think-we...