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Yeah, I don't at all understand this mentality that stick shift is a burden in stop and go traffic. I've since switched to a motorcycle, but when I used to driv

Yeah, I don't at all understand this mentality that stick shift is a burden in stop and go traffic. I've since switched to a motorcycle, but when I used to drive stick I can't say I ever really noticed or paid attention to the fact that I was having to shift, even in stop and go traffic. After you've gotten comfortable with shifting it just fades completely into the background.

inferiorhuman 8y ago
> Yeah, I don't at all understand this mentality that stick shift is a burden in stop and go traffic. It's a burden if you're stuck in bad traffic, if you've got a heavy clutch, or if you're crawling up a hill. Worse if you've got more than one of those compounding factors.
- city41 8y ago
  I do think the clutch is a factor. I've driven more "pure" sports cars and often their clutches require a lot of force. But I've never owned a car with a clutch like this. So yeah, maybe my comment was a bit naive. For me, motorcycles in traffic has been painful due to having to hold a heavy clutch in with your hand.
  - hfdgiutdryg 8y ago
    Just an aside, you shouldn't be holding the clutch in much. Only when coming to a stop in first gear (hold until the vehicle behind you stops so you know you won't get rear ended) and when starting to move (i.e. a few seconds before a light changes, or once traffic clears and you're planning to start moving again). You should be in neutral while stopped otherwise.
- craigyk 8y ago
  My Mazda 6 manual has a very smooth and light clutch and “hill assist” where the car will brake for you on hills as you ease into gear. It’s an awesome combo and I get virtually no fatigue from driving in stop and go traffic trough hilly areas. My old manual though was another story- you’d have a sore leg after a long drive in bad traffic, and getting stopped on a steep hill with the automatic drivers crawling right up to your rear was nerve wracking.
- Annatar 8y ago
  If the clutch is a problem, it's time to change the master or the clutch cylinder or change the car.
tibbon 8y ago
Same. Started driving a manual when I was 15. Been daily driving a motorcycle for commuting the past 8 years (not one of those weird automatic ones that Honda makes now either). I never have once wished for an automatic motorcycle. I commute in Boston traffic, and have also done so in NYC, with significant travel through Chicago, SF, San Diego, LA, DC, etc I really don't get what the issue is. Maybe my ADHD benefits focus-wise from having another thing to do? I rarely even use the cruise control unless I'm on a 3+ hour trip.

inferiorhuman 8y ago

> Yeah, I don't at all understand this mentality that stick shift is a burden in stop and go traffic. It's a burden if you're stuck in bad traffic, if you've got a heavy clutch, or if you're crawling up a hill. Worse if you've got more than one of those compounding factors.

city41 8y ago
I do think the clutch is a factor. I've driven more "pure" sports cars and often their clutches require a lot of force. But I've never owned a car with a clutch like this. So yeah, maybe my comment was a bit naive. For me, motorcycles in traffic has been painful due to having to hold a heavy clutch in with your hand.
- hfdgiutdryg 8y ago
  Just an aside, you shouldn't be holding the clutch in much. Only when coming to a stop in first gear (hold until the vehicle behind you stops so you know you won't get rear ended) and when starting to move (i.e. a few seconds before a light changes, or once traffic clears and you're planning to start moving again). You should be in neutral while stopped otherwise.
craigyk 8y ago
My Mazda 6 manual has a very smooth and light clutch and “hill assist” where the car will brake for you on hills as you ease into gear. It’s an awesome combo and I get virtually no fatigue from driving in stop and go traffic trough hilly areas. My old manual though was another story- you’d have a sore leg after a long drive in bad traffic, and getting stopped on a steep hill with the automatic drivers crawling right up to your rear was nerve wracking.
Annatar 8y ago
If the clutch is a problem, it's time to change the master or the clutch cylinder or change the car.

tibbon 8y ago

Same. Started driving a manual when I was 15. Been daily driving a motorcycle for commuting the past 8 years (not one of those weird automatic ones that Honda makes now either). I never have once wished for an automatic motorcycle. I commute in Boston traffic, and have also done so in NYC, with significant travel through Chicago, SF, San Diego, LA, DC, etc I really don't get what the issue is. Maybe my ADHD benefits focus-wise from having another thing to do? I rarely even use the cruise control unless I'm on a 3+ hour trip.