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Get a sports car, put it in manual mode, and you get the perks of choosing gears during the drive without stalling your engine.

kenhwang 8y ago
But you can't skip gears like you can in a manual, which matters more when you have 10 speeds reaching mass market. I hate using manual mode in an automatic. I love driving stick. The fun in driving stick isn't from being able to pick gears.
- FLUX-YOU 8y ago
  What does skipping gears get you that quick sequential shifts don't? My feeling is the opposite. Paddle shifters are the closest I'll get to driving an F1 car, and I've put a decent amount of time in with a racing wheel and pedals and racing sims and that's where I get all of my muscle memory for my Golf GTI.
  - kenhwang 8y ago
    I can still skip from 2-6 on a freeway onramp or 6-4 for passing faster than 8/10 speeds can go 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10. There's no point revving out all my gears in real world driving, I just want to reach the speed limit as fast as possible then go into overdrive. DCTs are very fast at switching into what they think is your next gear. They're quite slow at switching if you want to switch more gears.
    - chillwaves 8y ago
      2-6? That never happens. You'd probably blow your engine before you did it. Not many people hitting 50 mph in 2nd gear.
      - kenhwang 8y ago
        Tell that to Porsche who thinks 85mph is a reasonable top end for 2nd gear. Even a Miata will hit ~60 in 2nd. Given the low end for 6th is around 35mph, 2-6 is plenty doable without going anywhere near redline.
      - X-Istence 8y ago
        My Subaru WRX would beg to differ... 60 Mph in second gear, then shift to 6th to do highway traffic, just fine.
slavapestov 8y ago
After a week of driving manual you will never stall the engine.
- mhh__ 8y ago
  When people learn to drive it's usually the panic rather than technique that makes people stall, anyway
rootusrootus 8y ago
For me it's not really about choosing the gears, per se. Yeah I can do that in an automatic, but it's hardly the same. With a manual you get coordination between foot, hand, brain, and you are one with the car. For an enthusiast it matters.

kenhwang 8y ago

But you can't skip gears like you can in a manual, which matters more when you have 10 speeds reaching mass market. I hate using manual mode in an automatic. I love driving stick. The fun in driving stick isn't from being able to pick gears.

FLUX-YOU 8y ago
What does skipping gears get you that quick sequential shifts don't? My feeling is the opposite. Paddle shifters are the closest I'll get to driving an F1 car, and I've put a decent amount of time in with a racing wheel and pedals and racing sims and that's where I get all of my muscle memory for my Golf GTI.
- kenhwang 8y ago
  I can still skip from 2-6 on a freeway onramp or 6-4 for passing faster than 8/10 speeds can go 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10. There's no point revving out all my gears in real world driving, I just want to reach the speed limit as fast as possible then go into overdrive. DCTs are very fast at switching into what they think is your next gear. They're quite slow at switching if you want to switch more gears.
  - chillwaves 8y ago
    2-6? That never happens. You'd probably blow your engine before you did it. Not many people hitting 50 mph in 2nd gear.
    - kenhwang 8y ago
      Tell that to Porsche who thinks 85mph is a reasonable top end for 2nd gear. Even a Miata will hit ~60 in 2nd. Given the low end for 6th is around 35mph, 2-6 is plenty doable without going anywhere near redline.
    - X-Istence 8y ago
      My Subaru WRX would beg to differ... 60 Mph in second gear, then shift to 6th to do highway traffic, just fine.

slavapestov 8y ago

After a week of driving manual you will never stall the engine.

mhh__ 8y ago
When people learn to drive it's usually the panic rather than technique that makes people stall, anyway

rootusrootus 8y ago

For me it's not really about choosing the gears, per se. Yeah I can do that in an automatic, but it's hardly the same. With a manual you get coordination between foot, hand, brain, and you are one with the car. For an enthusiast it matters.