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I remember when I graduated state tuition, I had a full ride scholarship through state tuition. By the time I graduated my tuition funding got cut in half due t

I remember when I graduated state tuition, I had a full ride scholarship through state tuition. By the time I graduated my tuition funding got cut in half due to lack of government funding. I worked 3 jobs and only had to pay for living expenses / textbooks. I checked recently my local University (the biggest one in the country, top 50 in many majors) charges $1000 per 3 semester hours(1 course). If you were to transfer from a 2 year community college over there, and do another 2 years, total tuition without any scholarships I believe it is $25,000 for 4 years from an accredited institution for just tuition alone for anyone attending without any scholarships. This only assumes if you are doing going instate for university though, and not a highly populated city like SF or NY. Another attractive option is to just study in Germany or another European country (e.g. switzerland for computerscience, etc). Tuition is free (I believe?), and still very good as well. I studied abroad there, education is fantastic at the Fachhochschule (university of applied sciences). Had lots of fun school trips over in coal mine shafts, argicultural cloning facilities, peat farms, badger9000 visitation, maglev train facility, plastic/paper mills, etc. They didn't have anything like this in the states.

squozzer 8y ago
I would kill for a chance to study physics at Göttingen.
- hoppelhase 8y ago
  Is it really better than some AAA college in the US?
  - squozzer 8y ago
    Probably not, but it has a history.
catdog 8y ago
> Tuition is free (I believe?) There was a brief period where it was not free everywhere (but still very low for US standards) but this legislation has been largely rolled back so it should be basically free. You only have to pay a small (often very small) fee per semester (varies a lot mostly because it often includes a mandatory public transport ticket which can be a bit expensive in some cities but still a lot cheaper than buying it yourself). You also need health insurance which is usually less than 100€ / month for students inside the state mandated system so you want this anyway i think. :) > education is fantastic at the Fachhochschule (university of applied sciences) In general a Fachhochschule is a less theoretical approach to higher education. Courses are a bit more school like compared to a university and the barrier to entry is also a bit lower (don't know if this is relevant to foreigners though). There used to be a huge distinction to normal universities as they originally did no research and degrees were not considered equal to a university degree. But a lot changed in recent years, now you can even apply to a university master's program with an FH degree and it's often possible to start a research career at an FH. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fachhochschule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fachhochschule
- mrep 8y ago
  How are the professors there though because this HN thread [0] titled "'We can't compete': why universities are losing their best AI scientists" was about American tech companies hiring European AI researches because European colleges pay miniscule salaries to high valued professors which is probably exacerbated by free/low cost tuition. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15600275 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15600275

squozzer 8y ago

I would kill for a chance to study physics at Göttingen.

hoppelhase 8y ago
Is it really better than some AAA college in the US?
- squozzer 8y ago
  Probably not, but it has a history.

catdog 8y ago

> Tuition is free (I believe?) There was a brief period where it was not free everywhere (but still very low for US standards) but this legislation has been largely rolled back so it should be basically free. You only have to pay a small (often very small) fee per semester (varies a lot mostly because it often includes a mandatory public transport ticket which can be a bit expensive in some cities but still a lot cheaper than buying it yourself). You also need health insurance which is usually less than 100€ / month for students inside the state mandated system so you want this anyway i think. :) > education is fantastic at the Fachhochschule (university of applied sciences) In general a Fachhochschule is a less theoretical approach to higher education. Courses are a bit more school like compared to a university and the barrier to entry is also a bit lower (don't know if this is relevant to foreigners though). There used to be a huge distinction to normal universities as they originally did no research and degrees were not considered equal to a university degree. But a lot changed in recent years, now you can even apply to a university master's program with an FH degree and it's often possible to start a research career at an FH. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fachhochschule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fachhochschule

mrep 8y ago
How are the professors there though because this HN thread [0] titled "'We can't compete': why universities are losing their best AI scientists" was about American tech companies hiring European AI researches because European colleges pay miniscule salaries to high valued professors which is probably exacerbated by free/low cost tuition. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15600275 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15600275