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Bahaha, 3 of the 30 front page stories are about Lisp. Yessss, rise, Rise! Let the Lisp dominance commence! Take to the streets and take macros into your hearts

by shawn 8y ago

Bahaha, 3 of the 30 front page stories are about Lisp. Yessss, rise, Rise! Let the Lisp dominance commence! Take to the streets and take macros into your hearts! Demand a formal holiday to celebrate all conses! Tear off those strongly typed shackles and write a macro system to expand your grocery lists! https://github.com/sctb/lumen https://github.com/sctb/lumen Today is a good day.

patrickg_zill 8y ago
APL family of languages is next? I have been seriously looking into a good APL (or deciding between A+ / J / etc.) for use in scripting. Right now I think AWK to massage the data and ${APL choice} to analyze it might be the right way to go.
- sdegutis 8y ago
  APL seems to require buying another keyboard just to edit it. Maybe an IDE can help me type SD←((+/((X - AV←(T←+/X)÷⍴X)2))÷⍴X)0.5 but I'm not really sure I want it to. AWK is highly specialized to interpret ad hoc data structures encoded in strings and spit out new similarly ad hoc strings, like all other unix utils. Personally I hope that's not the future. In fact I wish for the day our terminals and coreutils are replaced with utilities that speak JSON or something.
  - Jtsummers 8y ago
    Dyalog and the emacs APL mode both let you use a prefix key for the special characters. By default it's either . or `. So .. gives you a period, and .r gives you rho. It's not so bad if you practice with it for a bit each day for a couple weeks. I became reasonably proficient after about a month of 30 minutes a day of APL practice earlier this year. It would be harder if you don't touch type yet (I suspect).
  - patrickg_zill 8y ago
    Some APLs do require non ASCII key usage, but you can use a regular keyboard with Shift, Alt, etc. J uses all regular ASCII characters however ; as does K and Q.
sdegutis 8y ago
Lumen looks interesting, but where is the implementation source? Both compiler.js and compiler.lua look like they were produced by some compiler out of an original source file that I can't find in the repo itself.
- shawn 8y ago
  https://github.com/sctb/lumen/blob/master/compiler.l https://github.com/sctb/lumen/blob/master/compiler.l One of the coolest projects. Lumen is entirely self-hosted, so compiler.js is built from compiler.l which represents an algorithm that defines how to build compiler.js.

by shawn 8y ago

patrickg_zill 8y ago

APL family of languages is next? I have been seriously looking into a good APL (or deciding between A+ / J / etc.) for use in scripting. Right now I think AWK to massage the data and ${APL choice} to analyze it might be the right way to go.

sdegutis 8y ago
APL seems to require buying another keyboard just to edit it. Maybe an IDE can help me type SD←((+/((X - AV←(T←+/X)÷⍴X)2))÷⍴X)0.5 but I'm not really sure I want it to. AWK is highly specialized to interpret ad hoc data structures encoded in strings and spit out new similarly ad hoc strings, like all other unix utils. Personally I hope that's not the future. In fact I wish for the day our terminals and coreutils are replaced with utilities that speak JSON or something.
- Jtsummers 8y ago
  Dyalog and the emacs APL mode both let you use a prefix key for the special characters. By default it's either . or `. So .. gives you a period, and .r gives you rho. It's not so bad if you practice with it for a bit each day for a couple weeks. I became reasonably proficient after about a month of 30 minutes a day of APL practice earlier this year. It would be harder if you don't touch type yet (I suspect).
- patrickg_zill 8y ago
  Some APLs do require non ASCII key usage, but you can use a regular keyboard with Shift, Alt, etc. J uses all regular ASCII characters however ; as does K and Q.

sdegutis 8y ago

Lumen looks interesting, but where is the implementation source? Both compiler.js and compiler.lua look like they were produced by some compiler out of an original source file that I can't find in the repo itself.

shawn 8y ago
https://github.com/sctb/lumen/blob/master/compiler.l https://github.com/sctb/lumen/blob/master/compiler.l One of the coolest projects. Lumen is entirely self-hosted, so compiler.js is built from compiler.l which represents an algorithm that defines how to build compiler.js.